I’m seeing so many kickstarter threads and people whinging about kickstarter, this kickstarter that… I now feel that anything kickstarter related looks like spam, and I ignore it and move on - no matter how good it is.
It was only a matter of time before the constant spam of apps being posted on kickstarter (many with no prior ability or evidence of completion) would cause people to move away.
I’m seeing kids saying oh we’ll kickstart it, they really don’t want to try making a game any more. It’s all about the free money you’ll get from kickstarter.
Personally? I’d say grow a pair and make the game without it if it’s your first game. You’ll need all the experience you can get.
I find it very sad that you overlook so many great projects simply because they’re on kickstarter. By your logic big developers should ignore and overlook unity because there’s tons of kids spamming shitty games made in a day.
That’s pretty much what happens, yes. And it’s changing thankfully.
Although your analogy is crap and doesn’t make any sense because those shitty games get done while the kickstarter spam generally doesn’t… Make a list of how many games there are on kickstarter and any that actually went anywhere? maybe there’s one or two.
Not to mention that a proper argument against what I’m saying wouldn’t require an analogy.
Now, there are many kids that see a baseball game and want a baseball bat. Proud fathers noticing their child’s interest in an athletic endeavor pick up a bat, some balls, some gloves, and off to the park they go. Perhaps the kid sticks with it. Perhaps they don’t, but they find some other athletic activity. Maybe they do Little League, learn about organized sports, etc. They learn how to be part of a team rather than being self-centered. One could go on and on about all the positives that come about from baseball bats.
Now, there are some kids that just want to take a baseball bat and beat the crap out of something or somebody.
The bat’s just a tool.
Kickstarter. It’s just a tool. Some will use it to get their first game out there. They might not have been able to so otherwise. Some are going to try to use it to scam some cash…offering apologies for the inability to complete the project.
I don’t think its a case of overlooking projects on kickstarter, which last time I checked still had the same level of quality/expectation as before the bubble, more a case of over-looking the threads on the various forums that have sprung up, where I would fully agree with Hippo’s sentiments.
Well, most of them want like $100,000 and never get it(and cause of that you get your money back) so they never get made, much like the hundreds of Unity 3D games want talent but never get it so they quit.
But anyway, what you are saying is happening everywhere, at any time. It’s just because everyone nowdays can do practically everything, or at least try it, and the internet is a real zoo for those people to show off their work to other people. Whether you go to science, movies, games, music, software in general or whatever. It’s all the same. It is getting hard and harder every day to find the good stuff. Google itself has lost the overview a long time ago already.
So I am still for expert quality assessment. Something where you can filter for high quality. But that’s not going to happen on the asset store (see my other post) and its not going to happen anywhere else. So stay tuned.
Every kind of website or thing that reaches a certain amount of reputation, will be spammed with useless crap because everybody, no matter how insignificant his/her findings are, want’s to post something.
Well, how about signing a contract for the money. If you don’t fulfill the stated goals to satisfaction, you have to refund the money. See how much spam shows up with this restriction… Especially if it really can be enforced by law.
Also, kickstarter is supposed to be for funding their project, when that seems to come much closer to “fund my life”, I’d love to see how some of the successful kickstarter projects spend their funding.
Exactly. What you might not find good others might. Supply and demand. If there are people willing to fund these projects there must be people who like these kind of products, right? I’ve yet to hear about a case where people are threatened at gunpoint to donate to shitty kickstarters
Life is all about trying. I see nothing wrong with trying to earn some cash. Sure it sucks if the kickstart project runs off with the cash but you were aware of that possibility when you donated your money.
Doesn’t make it any less disgusting from my point of view, but personally I think retro indie games generally are a disgrace to what “retro” games really were.
Kickstarter does not offer refunds. A Project Creator is not required to grant a Backer’s request for a refund unless the Project Creator is unable or unwilling to fulfill the reward.
Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill.
Preteen girls going crazy over Justin Beaver is disgusting to me. Doesn’t change anything though.
Sure there are bad projects, but there’s always a bad thing in a pile of good ones. Kickstarter has also brought many awesome projects that otherwise wouldn’t be possible. I am not entirely sure what we’re discussing here.
I went for some coffee, meant to edit it when I got back. Was not saying that you were being a jerk - was a case I found it funny that’s what their actual guidelines say…heh.
These are the Unity forums - the Kickstarter guidelines do not apply - though, they do have their own community guidelines here.
This will probably result in contributors becoming more skeptical and reconsidering if it’s worth to spend 5$ on future promises or the next chocolate bar. It may evolve to a point only half-finished projects get enough donations - projects which can deliver playable demos, have a decent portfolio and of course did widespread marketing to get their project recognized. Especially the latter points require an effort, which shouldn’t be underestimated. You need marketing for a project that might not even exist yet. Therefore I also think it’s a bubble for most unknown/indie developers.
