HARDWARE / LAPTOP / COMPUTER for use in Unity development? Ask here! (and only here)

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hi, tell me a laptop with such characteristics is suitable for working with a unity? for creating SMALL 2D and 3D games.

Lenovo Ideapad 3 (81W2001HRK)
CPU: AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (2.3)
RAM: 8gb (2400 MHz)
GPU: AMD Radeon RX Vega 2 ( - 1100 MHz) (in GPU)

Thanks!

Have any examples of the games you would normally create that you can share? Because saying they're "small" doesn't have any real meaning behind it. You can have small games that would be very difficult to make on that laptop and vice versa.

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People are always asking about advice on hardware for use in Unity/Game development. Often many are the same. So ask them here...AFTER you have looked through the prior responses. That way we can have it all in one place. Please stick to number and general information, opinions and useless chattering/advice will be cleaned out.

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Gaming PCs are usually a good fit for game development. Every month, PC Gamer magazine updates three PC build specs: budget, mid-range, and top-of-the-line. Their specs are a good starting point -- for prices and for type of components -- whether you're planning to build your own or compare components to pre-assembled PCs. You may not need the full power of a mid-range PC, or even their budget build, if you're just starting out with simple 2D games. But you never know when you might graduate to games that require a little more power. Ultimately, though, Unity can get by on fairly low-end machines, so don't let that stop you from starting on your game idea with whatever computer you have available to you.

I would recommend a desktop PC for good value / performance - but the Macbook Pro is surprisingly really good for general dev work. At least better than my experiences with windows laptop (in similar price range) when you factor in things like longevity and reliability.

Just to clarify, this thread is primarily for people to ask questions, so we don't have a ton of threads all asking pretty much the same questions. ( Honestly I was tempted to title it "Ask Ryiah"... ;) )
Let's try to keep is specific and just not sharing our opinions on platforms/manufacturers/stores, etc. Thanks!

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Please critique my next PC build. I want a PC that is first and foremost good for working in Unity, making builds (I have TeamCity setup locally), and doing a bit of gaming.

Currently my Ryzen 2700X takes 12-13 minutes to push out a WebGL build, which is just too slow! Also faster script compilation in Unity Editor would be nicer. Takes 15 seconds each time I change a script for Unity to refresh! I'm on 2019.4.

I have a 3080 RTX already which I will be moving into this build.

HDDSAM980700 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD Read up to 7000MB/s, Write Up to 5100MB/s ,5 Years Warranty $698.99 1 $698.99 inc.
PSUASU01200 ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Platinum Power Supply, with Aura Sync and OLED Display. Full modular. 10 Years Limited Warranty $698.99 1 $698.99 inc.
MEMGSK32143 G.SKILL Trident Z Royal RGB F4-4000C16D-32GTRS 32GB RAM (2 x 16GB) DDR4 4000MHz, CL16, 1.4v Desktop Memory ,16-19-19-39, Silver $709.00 1 $709.00 inc.
CHAASU0101 ASUS ROG Strix Helios White Edition Mid Tower gaming case with tempered glass,Support EATX, ATX, MATX, MINI ITX, aluminum frame, GPU braces, 420mm radiator support and Aura Sync,Support CPU Cooler up to 190mm, VGA up to 450mm, White,RGB $569.00 1 $569.00 inc.
CPUAMD05950X AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core,32 Threads, up to 4.9 GHz Max Boost, Socket AM4, 64MB total Cache ,105W TDP ,Extended Frequency Range (XFR) in the presence of better cooling. Heatsink Required $1,388.99 1 $1,388.99 inc.
WTRNZX0064 NZXT Kraken Z63 All in one Liquid Cooler 280MM RGB, 2.36" Display, Customize Display, 2X Aer P140 Fans, Intel Socket 1200,1151, 1150, 1155, 1156,1366, 2011, 2011-3, 2066, AMD SocketTR4 (Bracket Provide By AMD CPU Package), AM4, FM2+, FM2, F $459.00 1 $459.00 inc.
MBDGBM35718 Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME eATX For AMD Ryzen 2nd/3rd Gen 5000 Series CPU,AM4, X570, 4XDDR4 DIMM,3XM.2, 3XPCIE 4.0 X16 , 11 X USB, 1XType C, 10G LAN,WiFi 6 +BT, Internal I/O:. 2XUSB3.1, 1XUSB2.0, 2X 12V RGB Header, 2X 5V RGB Header, 1xType $1,298.99 1 $1,298.99 inc.

Thanks!

[quote=“Meltdown”, post:7, topic: 841023]
Please critique my next PC build. I want a PC that is first and foremost good for working in Unity, making builds (I have TeamCity setup locally), and doing a bit of gaming.

Currently my Ryzen 2700X takes 12-13 minutes to push out a WebGL build, which is just too slow! Also faster script compilation in Unity Editor would be nicer. Takes 15 seconds each time I change a script for Unity to refresh! I’m on 2019.4.

I have a 3080 RTX already which I will be moving into this build.

HDDSAM980700 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD Read up to 7000MB/s, Write Up to 5100MB/s ,5 Years Warranty $698.99 1 $698.99 inc.
PSUASU01200 ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Platinum Power Supply, with Aura Sync and OLED Display. Full modular. 10 Years Limited Warranty $698.99 1 $698.99 inc.
MEMGSK32143 G.SKILL Trident Z Royal RGB F4-4000C16D-32GTRS 32GB RAM (2 x 16GB) DDR4 4000MHz, CL16, 1.4v Desktop Memory ,16-19-19-39, Silver $709.00 1 $709.00 inc.
CHAASU0101 ASUS ROG Strix Helios White Edition Mid Tower gaming case with tempered glass,Support EATX, ATX, MATX, MINI ITX, aluminum frame, GPU braces, 420mm radiator support and Aura Sync,Support CPU Cooler up to 190mm, VGA up to 450mm, White,RGB $569.00 1 $569.00 inc.
CPUAMD05950X AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core,32 Threads, up to 4.9 GHz Max Boost, Socket AM4, 64MB total Cache ,105W TDP ,Extended Frequency Range (XFR) in the presence of better cooling. Heatsink Required $1,388.99 1 $1,388.99 inc.
WTRNZX0064 NZXT Kraken Z63 All in one Liquid Cooler 280MM RGB, 2.36" Display, Customize Display, 2X Aer P140 Fans, Intel Socket 1200,1151, 1150, 1155, 1156,1366, 2011, 2011-3, 2066, AMD SocketTR4 (Bracket Provide By AMD CPU Package), AM4, FM2+, FM2, F $459.00 1 $459.00 inc.
MBDGBM35718 Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME eATX For AMD Ryzen 2nd/3rd Gen 5000 Series CPU,AM4, X570, 4XDDR4 DIMM,3XM.2, 3XPCIE 4.0 X16 , 11 X USB, 1XType C, 10G LAN,WiFi 6 +BT, Internal I/O:. 2XUSB3.1, 1XUSB2.0, 2X 12V RGB Header, 2X 5V RGB Header, 1xType $1,298.99 1 $1,298.99 inc.

Thanks!
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First of all upgrade to 2020, alot of improvement in build times.

Otherwise pretty solid computer. I would not recommend AIO cooler, better to go with a custom loop. Let me know if you want me to put together one.

Memory I would go with 3800 cl14 instead of those 4000 cl16.

Asus haven’t made a big name for them self in the chassi market so can’t say much, I would maybe go with a more common full tower like Corsair Obsidian 1000D, Phanteks Enthoo or similar

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[quote=“MDADigital”, post:8, topic: 841023]
Otherwise pretty solid computer. I would not recommend AIO cooler, better to go with a custom loop. Let me know if you want me to put together one.
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What clock rates are you typically seeing with your 5950X both single-threaded and all cores maxed?

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What clock rates are you typically seeing with your 5950X both single-threaded and all cores maxed?
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Cinebench r23 single core and I get around 4.8 to 4.9

Multicore I get around 4.4 to 4.5 all core

Edit: Ryzen master reported.
Edit: 40c at single core. Around 55 to 60c all core
Edit: EK Velocity water block 3x120 radiator shared with rtx 3090

Edit: btw to compare you need to run the same load it’s very much task dependant

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[quote=“MDADigital”, post:8, topic: 841023]
I would not recommend AIO cooler, better to go with a custom loop. Let me know if you want me to put together one.

Memory I would go with 3800 cl14 instead of those 4000 cl16.
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What is wrong with an AIO coolder? What is a custom loop?

And why is the slower RAM better?

I would have upgraded to 2020 if it wasn’t for all the changes they made to the WebGL template stuff.

[quote=“Meltdown”, post:11, topic: 841023]
What is wrong with an AIO coolder?
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They are usually mediocre. You usually better off with a cheaper but better air cooler.
With that said, I have one, cooling my 3950x, but I have a micro case which is fairly open. (The air cooler would struggle in it since the airflow comes from everywhere). Not to mention I wouldn’t find a fairly good air cooler which still fits in the limited space I have.
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[quote=“Meltdown”, post:11, topic: 841023]
What is a custom loop?
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Generally you shouldn’t use that. It requires a lot of care and knowledge. You can put together water cooling manually. I mean buy the pipes, fittings, elbows, pumps, reservoir separately and put together manually inside your case.
I don’t recommend it to anyone who wants to use their computer instead of fiddling with one.
Great hobby, but not productive if you use your computer for work.

[quote=“Meltdown”, post:11, topic: 841023]
And why is the slower RAM better?
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Because the access timing is better. Think of it this way: you have a car, it can go fast, but there is another car which has a better acceleration. On short, burst etaps, the second one will perform better. On the long, elongated races, the first one is. You usually use memory on short quick bursts instead of long reads. >>>usually<<<
So in general you are better off with the fast access timing even if it is a bit slower in general.

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They are usually mediocre. You usually better off with a cheaper but better air cooler.
With that said, I have one, cooling my 3950x, but I have a micro case which is fairly open. (The air cooler would struggle in it since the airflow comes from everywhere). Not to mention I wouldn't find a fairly good air cooler which still fits in the limited space I have..
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Can you recommend an air cooler for the 5950x?

Any recommendations on cheap but capable used-market ARCore Android device?
Samsung A5?

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Can you recommend an air cooler for the 5950x?
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Since I do not own 5950x, I wouldn’t guess with good conscience. Look for a well-known and generally trustworthy review site and see what they recommend. Like GamerNexus or similar (please don’t take this as an endorsement, I trust them, but ultimately you should decide for yourself if you do too).
Also, as usual, AIOs are coming in all sort of price-ranges and sizes, so you may find some which better for specific purpose and situation (like me) than the other.
Put in an hour for research, make some google searches or watch some YT videos from reviewers.

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[quote=“Meltdown”, post:11, topic: 841023]
What is wrong with an AIO coolder? What is a custom loop?

And why is the slower RAM better?

I would have upgraded to 2020 if it wasn’t for all the changes they made to the WebGL template stuff.
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AIO coolers are usally worse than a good aircooler actually. A custom loop is a loop put together with different high quality parts from EK, XSPC, Laing etc.

4000 mhz is not guaranteed on zen 3 neither is 3800 but its pretty much guaranteed. I would go with the better latency on the 3800 mhz.

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I don't recommend it to anyone who wants to use their computer instead of fiddling with one.
Great hobby, but not productive if you use your computer for work.
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He has already taken the step to build from custom parts so not a big step to use custom water cooling. Back in the day it was more job, but today full tower chassis are built for it etc.

[quote=“Meltdown”, post:13, topic: 841023]
Can you recommend an air cooler for the 5950x?
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Mine is the Noctua NH-D15S.

https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15s

My case is a Fractal Design Define 7 which is optimized for silence at the expense of cooling. Running Cinebench R23 I’m seeing 4.55GHz single-core and 3.70GHz multi-core. I have no doubt it’s my case holding my system back. With a proper case (and a second heatsink fan) I expect the multi-core would be 4.0 to 4.2GHz.

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[quote=“Ryiah”, post:18, topic: 841023]
Mine is the Noctua NH-D15S.

https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15s

My case is a Fractal Design Define 7 which is optimized for silence at the expense of cooling. Running Cinebench R23 I’m seeing 4.55GHz single-core and 3.70GHz multi-core. I have no doubt it’s my case holding my system back. With a proper case (and a second heatsink fan) I expect the multi-core would be 4.0 to 4.2GHz.
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That and aircooling

edit: ah, sorry missed 4.0 to 4.2 yeah that seems resonable on air… But why not reach the skies :stuck_out_tongue:

Also custom water loop is silent in normal operations.

edit: The silicon lottery is also important aspect

edit2: Have you made sure you have proper contact? 3.7 all core seems low.

If anyone wants to go with water cooling a AM4 I would go with

block https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-velocity-amd-copper-acetal
rad https://www.xs-pc.com/radiators-rx-series/rx360-triple-fan-radiator-v2
pump I would go with a DDC Laing, https://laing-thermotech.com/industrial-commercial-pumps/ddc-pump/
make sure to get a version with PWM feature so you can control flow and noise.
Also do not cheap out on the pump top cover, They are important for best possible flow, like
https://www.aquatuning.co.uk/water-cooling/pumps/laing-ddc/ddc-tops/

D5 is another great pump

When it comes to tubing I like thick tubes that make big loops instead of folds themself and creates flow problems.
Like 3/8" (10mm) ID with a OD of 13mm.