http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/post/50432219744/special-guest-edition-the-hawkeye-initiative-irl
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The thing that made this so hilarious is the stupid grin on the guy’s face. I couldn’t stop laughing.
What… did I just witness?
The Title of this thread says Hawken go gender-neutral so I immediately thought it had something to do with the game Hawken.
This is kind of awesome 
Certainly a creative way to make a point.
If you read it, you would find it is.
That was hilarious, and some what touching!
I don’t get it, neither at the start nor the end, i get the prank, but not the morale, i don’t find the first poster shocking, but i don’t find the second one either, neither toward men nor women, it’s not a naked girl, it’s stylized comic and barely bordering on sexy, we see naked women on tv everytime they need to advertise soap, so this well , just no, i wouldn’t be embarassed.
But that’s exactly the point. Most guys don’t care. Especially guys in certain industries, including this one.
Sure, the image in question might not be much of a turn-on, but it’s undeniably an overt attempt to use girl-flesh for male gratification. In a relatively public and supposedly professional arena. This isn’t an advert broadcast on a TV station that the ladies in question opted in to watching or a poster in someone’s private bedroom, either, it’s a proud and unmissable display in the entrance to a workplace.
Would you still care if it was a guy instead? I’m pretty sure most guys wouldn’t care.
That was my point, i don’t see any issue there, actually most girls i know wouldn’t care in the least.
It’s no less chocking to me to see this at work (in a game dev environment) than it is to see a naked guy in a sculpting class, it’s not the same thing of course, but neither looks out of place.
Indeed, apologies! I forgot that everything’s ok as long as blokes are fine with it.
Why did you feel the need to specify “in a game dev environment” there? Why does the environment matter?
People will get offended at almost anything. I’m sure a couple guys would get offended at a picture of a lean, muscular rugged looking man holding a welder with no shirt on. But honestly, it’s not my problem they get offended by a picture and why should it be anyone else’s.
Would you rather they have a picture of a clown up there, maybe one of their games had a clown…but wait, what if someone finds clowns offensive?
Sure, but I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to not like their boss encouraging their objectification in the workplace.
It’s funny in a way but you’ll notice that a) the original scantily clad female was most likely a male fantasy for the benefit of men, and b) the male-version of the character is most likely men’s ideal of what they’d like to look like without much regard for what women want - they probably both come from the same ignorant male content creators.
The environment always matter. I wouldn 't think it’s fine in say a banking company or a nyrsery. Basically i feel it is fine pretty much everywhere you’d be fine with comics of this graphic style even with no one on the picture.
I thought this was a game development forum… Why is this even an issue that needs to be covered here? Go make games and stop the political soap box standings. Anyways the Male isn’t a girls fantasy. He’s the lost member of the Village People…
Oh, now I get it. The content is irrelevant, it’s the artistic style that matters!
So in a bank it’s ok to show scantily clad people in suggestive poses as long as it’s photographic? Because photographic images are more or less what I expect to see in a bank, and whether or not there are scantily clad individuals in suggestive poses is completely irrelevant… so…
Delete everyone’s comments here and ban everyone. Then we can get some work done.
Well, it wouldn’t really matter. Go and have some gore pictures up there, but you may have less customers. You want to seem professional, a comic book poster doesn’t really display that(unless you’re a comic book company xD). Which was what he was getting at.
Someone’s always going to be offended, it’s just a matter of how many people you are willing to accommodate before it gets stupid. This has gotten stupid. That picture is not objectifying anyone and honestly I’m out of here. I should of been out when someone said that image was objectifying women.