Help Gas Powered Games Not Become Another Statistic

Hi guys i have been following this for around 1 week now and soon came to realise they need our help, The guys behind such games as supreme commander 2, Dungeon Siege, Age Of Empires are in dire needs to get thier project funded if they do not get funded then Gas Powered Games Will be no more :frowning:

Please help these guys.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gaspoweredgames/wildman-an-evolutionary-action-rpg

Its not up to us folks who work for a living to fund these other folks who also work for a living, who have published huge games, and somehow didn’t fund them properly enough to be around as a business now. Reality check - if your business model is losing money, now matter how successful it seems, its doomed to failure.

I’d rather let these, and other studios fail, failure is good. Failure splits up creative groups, and creates new ones, better ideas emerge, better games maybe too. Its not appealing to keep hearing these big studios cry 'Were broke" I say to that, “I paid for my product, stop wasting money on lawyers and anti piracy software”

Got to agree with this. The fact that they laid off most of their staff in the middle of their funding drive shows that this company is circling the drain. Even if I were feeling charitable, I really doubt it’d do much anyway because in their state I’d have to wonder if a product would ever make it to market right now.

I don’t want to see them fail, but they’re doing a horrible job with that Kickstarter. Most of their focus so far has been on ‘save this company!’ and not the actual gameplay of the game. I only got interesting in the game after listening to an hour-long interview with him. Towards the end of it, he finally started talking about the actual gameplay, and I became interested enough to fund it.

And even then, I’m still not really convinced the game will be fun to play. It’s really easy to screw up the execution of what they’re doing, and their recent games don’t fill me with confidence. I haven’t enjoyed their games since the original Dungeon Siege.

There are a lot of things I want to say, some angry, but I won’t because I haven’t made a real big game yet, so I will withhold my opinions on the industry at this time. Just know that if I ever do end up being even slightly successful with a game, I will release a very long and heated rant about the game industry and its habits.

So is it entirely impossible for them to… I don’t know… start up a new company with different games and less people if this one goes down? Why does the end of that one company mean the end of everybody’s game development life.

It doesn’t. More likely they’d get jobs elsewhere because GPG doesn’t have the capital to put into a new studio and no sane investor would give them money.

What can I say? They’re gas powered games, and everyone knows the price of gas is really expensive right now.

I have to agree
As I shuffle through bills and have to cut here and there sometimes because my daughter needs new shoes why should I even think about some software company that doesn’t effect me at all if it dies O.o

Why do you even bother? The guy laid off all the employee anyway. There is NOTHING there to save. The owner just want to save HIS OWN MONEY that’s all. Don’t fall for this scam.

Had a good run, then they went and made the wrong choices.

How is it our duty to fix their mistakes?

Devil’s Advocate: Perhaps good karma is a reason to help them?

They probably wont reach the million, I wonder what would have happened if they lowered scope and just went for 300k or so.

Big companies… on kickstarter…

They ask for 100k+ salaries to make a game they don’t really want to work on unless they get paid… contrasted against teams asking for barely enough to pay rent and eat (forget luxuries like healthcare or family) so they can have MORE time to work on it (because they are already working on their projects for free in all their spare time).

That’d be great if, you know, karma was something properly quantifiable.

Yes, big surprise, but these developers ALSO need to pay rent, live within certain means, be offered competitive wages relative to others with their skill set to keep them from just taking other jobs, AND feed their families. These people should not expect massive pay cuts just because they’re a “company.”

I’m just completely over Kickstarter campaigns. As a solo developer funding everything I do out of my own pocket, I just can’t help but feel jaded with everyone who’s taking this “easy way out”. This one in particular (Gas Powered Games) just feels like nothing but a money-grab to me.

And yet, all the indies are expected to work non-stop for barely enough to live … and the general population thinks even THAT is usually too much.

Guess what! Indies aren’t established developers! You don’t march into a gas station for a job and ask for $100,000 a year.

My reply.
Good karma would be helping the little guy.
Good karma is giving a homeless guy the money you were about to spend on a game (of which multi Millionaire companies have funded)

And of course , the fact that game looks generic and doesn’t interest me in the Slightest

This guy aimed too high and he probably fails. No big problem. He just needs to move on and make something smaller first!

There are people out there with real problems. Look how many african babies starving each day. People losing their family and friends in wars each day. That is something to actually care about.

Well to be fair, I think it was the media that pushed him to make the plea video after they got wind of the redundancies news, and he had to counter the negative vibe with a plea for calm.

Nobody wants to be seen to be begging for money, especially face-on on camera, after running with the same guys after 15 years. And from what I understand, everybody that was let go is behind him 100% - he’s well loved, not just some greedy fella treating his staff as dispensable.

But at least you’re commenting on the game project itself, unlike the minority who on one hand complain that Kickstarter’s not for people with money, while use the other hand insist that Kickstarter’s not for people who need money. It’s pretty sad state of affairs when folk demand honesty and transparency, then shoot the first honest guy that comes along :-p

He already spent his own money paying the guys, who he had to let go because he ran out of it. Whatever the reasons, it’s not for you or me to judge him. This business is like an hour glass, fortunes turn quickly, and the sands fall faster with every turn these days.