How Microsoft could get me as a Windows Phone Dev

Work with Unity to make a plugin to export to Windows Phone , and then make it free . AND throw in a free phone for me to test on , then I would totally be down to make a WIndows phone app. The problem right now is that market is WAY to small to justify me spending too much time on money on it

You’re stating the obvious.

If there was a way to deploy to another platform for free, with (nearly) no extra effort, Why wouldn’t you?

Because I’ve heard Steve Balmer eats puppies?

Hookers Crack.

Since I’d still have to put my hard work and effort into making sure it works right .

Considering my likely profit is Zero thats still alot of work

ps. They do give free developer phones, just ask about it from them…
(They also have a website with list of public dev.phones that you can book for yourself…cant remember the link)

*Edit:
hmm… Bad Piggies is “unity authored” ?
https://twitter.com/unity3d/statuses/251428646114435074

“coming soon to windows phones” ?
http://www.badpiggies.com/

Not to be “that guy” but I think a market is also pretty important to have also. Not many Windows phones out there…

There are no Windows Phone 8 device out there yet as it WP8 hasn’t been released yet. Making the platform more open for developers should give it more chance than WP7, but it needs to do massively better. I hope it does, as a third major competitor will be good for keeping the platform holders on their toes and competitive. And when they have to compete for developer attention, developers are better off.

Hmm, if Unity had a normal basic license i would probably get it, as there are not many apps mine is more likely to thrive.

True.

Oh, and I didn’t mean to say in my earlier comment that I’m against them or any third party competition. I simply meant their products are not popular.

But as tp pointed out that does have its own advantages.

Here is why y ou should NOT ignore Windows Phone 8:

Nokia has sold about 7 million Lumia (Windows Phone 7) phones. The number is not jaw dropping, but that is 7 million users that consciously picked windows phones over iPhones or Android. Windows Phone 7 users are much more likely to be app starved than other platforms, and at the same time they are more likely to consume content. Why? A lot of Android phone owners just get phones because they are cheap or pushed down their throats at the carrier stores, huge chunk of these never do more than just make phone calls. Heck, a huge percentage never even use the browser, if we are to believe web traffic logs that set Android at a tie or under iOS web traffic despite there being way more Androids out there.

iPhones on the other hand are also often bought just for fashion. A huge chunk just buy them as phone-upgrade for their iPods and only consume music. I think people get lost in the “app” realm and forget a huge chunk of Apple customers are mostly music lovers. So we also get a lot of iPhone users that will never bother looking at games.

Windows Phones, though, are a much geekier thing. Few get a Windows Phone because of trends or carrier push. By being much more conscious that means the percentage of users are much more likely to be aware of the app ecosystem than the users of other platforms.

Note: This is no way trying to say WinPhone is more successful than the others, simply that the percentage of consumers that are likely to spend money on apps is potentially higher.

Besides, Unity already stated there will be support for Windows Phone 8, but don’t expect it to be free.

I predict Windows Phone 8 will sell much more than WinPhone7, heck… I am tempted with the new HTC phones, these phones are gorgeous!


You are destined to mediocrity with this attitude.

also this attitude

If you think your profit is likely to be zero, how is sending you a free phone a good investment for MS?

I have a friend that bought a Windows Phone and did not like it so she returned it.

Just now looking at the HTC picture in this thread. Wow, nice…but looking at the phone they are nice as iPhones but the Metro interface is rather intrusive in the information it makes available to display on a phone that you will be carrying in public!

Rude and childish language and pictures in these forums and on the internet in general aside most people don’t want that kind of private information shown on their phone when in public trying to answer a simple phone call.

I myself have Windows 8 so I know that you can configure Metro to show generic icons instead of ‘Live’ feeds of private information. They need to make this the default configuration out of the box.

That said, I don’t know much about the Windows App Store but depending on the number of consumers and businesses that upgrade to Windows 8 they have a potentially huge audience.

I don’t think many will much go for it though unless your Microsoft Store accounts are linked on PCs, Tablets (both ARM x86), and Phones and buying an app on the PC allows you to install it on your Phone (one phone) and your Tablet (one tablet) when that makes sense. Should Adobe CS6 be in the Microsoft Store it doesn’t make sense to have it on a phone.

They also need to find a way to feature their phones and tablets in the Microsoft Store until they gain some acceptance as a competitor to Apple in this arena.

There is an issue in this logic. For one, yes you can move about the tiles so you dont showcase that private information in public. Sure, that requires configuration from the user. So does Facebook and twitter integration. Most the private infromation displayed comes from those two sources.

I think the phones come with either a tutorial or a manual that instructs you how to move tiles about so you don’t have to keep things visible all the time.

This is the first time I hear that complaint, it sort of is a valid one but not so much when you can just as easily move the tiles out of view.

What I did not like of WP7 was the lack of native development that prevented Unity deployment. That is changing with WP8.

If I make at least $1000 combined (accross various platforms) income out of my next title, I will be getting one of these phones even without a contract just to play with. Not holding my breath since my next title is just a pretty rehash on a classic formula. May be lucky to make 100 bucks :stuck_out_tongue:

This aside, one thing I loved on the original WP7 presentation was the XBox Live cloud gaming demo, where you can have a PC Game done with XLA start running, then make an Xbox Live Indie game that resumes exactly where the PC left off, then leave home and have the phone pick exactly at that point. The entire lack of native plus the stupidity that is XBox Live Indie Games made sure the feature was dead in the water, but it had a lot of promise that may get resurected with WP8.

They need to encourage people like Wal-Mart and Best Buy to push WP8 devices. Android’s current sale numbers have nothing to do with quality or customer desires, and almost everything to do with salesmen pressure.

One thing I haven’t heard about and that would help would be a ‘Windows Metro’ competitor to the iPod touch although you know there have to be some equivalents.

One thing that is hampering Microsoft is traditionally the hardware comes from a 3rd party and that 3rd party competition is not effectively able to compete against Apple. Microsoft needs to do it themselves like the xBox or pick one partner, for example Nokia, and get seen in Walmart. And they need to price with the realization that bigger specs and a price like Apple’s is the same as loosing to Apple but similar specs with a cheaper price beats Apple.

Unknown to many, Metro started life as the UI inside the Zune HD. It got canned last year, so don’t expect a Windows Phone 8 Player anytime soon (unless someone like HTC creates it and Microsoft is open to licensing for it.)

I don’t think this is entirely true. Right now, the hardware between all WP8 devices seems to be basically the same. This is no coincidence; Microsoft has set some very strict rules as to what hardware MUST be included in a WP8 phone. That’s a middle ground between iOS and Android that MS never attempted with the desktop ecosystem (where they still try to support 10 year old computers.)

What MS really needs is a better retail strategy. They need a presence in high traffic stores, in a high profile display. Apple didn’t resurrect from the ashes just by making better hardware, they did so by creating the sleek Apple Stores AND partnering with chains like Best Buy to have stylized stores-within-a-store featuring exclusively Apple products.

There is right now no market at all.
Windows Phone 8 devices are not yet released and Windows Phone 8 will NOT run on existing Windows Phone 7.x devices.

Also Unity will only support WP8 (as it supports native code), there will not be any C# XNA support to even go to Windows Phone 7

And I think that the Samsung ATIV (one of the first WP8 phones to launch) actually is pretty well capable of competing with Apples offering

I think the ATIV pretty much explains the ruckus between Apple Samsung in court. Those are very nice but pricing? I don’t expect to see those in Walmart or the mall.

I guess with MS Exchange support big business might replace those Blackberries with the rice-grain size keyboard keys.