iPhone runs OSX!!!
Could this mean Unity Games on a Mobile Device!!!
WoooHooo…Lookout Nintendo DS.!!!
WoooHooooo!!!
EDIT: WIDGETS RUN ON iPhone, FULL SAFARI!!!
iPhone runs OSX!!!
Could this mean Unity Games on a Mobile Device!!!
WoooHooo…Lookout Nintendo DS.!!!
WoooHooooo!!!
EDIT: WIDGETS RUN ON iPhone, FULL SAFARI!!!
And Widgets!!!
And it has an acceleromotor to detect movement!!!
Holy crap!!! WidgetMonkeys reborn!!!
Yes but can it deal with Unity?
that’s no phone, it’s a space station…
(seriously - is there anything it doesn’t do?)
I’d relax a little bit, there.
Cool, but the 3D capabilities can’t be too impressive. This is probably why NVidia won out on the integrated chip, but how good could it be? Not much room in that phone what with all the wifibluetoothtouchscreendoublebatteryosetc.
Still, the multitouch, mic, and apparently capable graphics could make for some great games. Open platform? Don’t know yet. Widgets sure suggest that, though!
Widget support, WOOT! Buts lets keep our calm, until more details are announced. The widget support could be limited.
My first impression is like a PS3 phone (hopefully) without supply problems.
The only reason I would want a cell phone is if I get stuck in the wilderness with a broken leg or to call people from a car.
I guess I don’t see how you could need a portable computer. I suppose that is because I never leave my house
Great evolution (although no revolution) for a mobile phone but beside of the screen i miss anything which makes out a good handheld. What are the chips capable of? Any info about what (which cpu) runs this baby? Did they port OSX to ARM silently or what kind of ULV X86/PPC chip is running this?
taumel you always see the glass half empty huh? Anyhoo very ingenius product, sure as hell will put the boys at RIM here in Ontario on their heels. And MS and their Zune will surely feel this bite in the a$$.
Love the Widget and OS X integration
Cheers
~t
Word has it the iPhone is running on an undisclosed Intel CPU. Same as the Apple TV, they don’t give any specs.
The Apple Employees at the expo are saying it is a “closed platform”, meaning right now, you cannot add your own stuff to it.
Hmm do you think so? Well, if i got it right it’s a combination of already known technologies and services built into one product or did i miss something?
Was anything noticeable invented by Apple on this one? Did they invent a phone? Or maybe a mp3 player, a pda, google earth, highres displays, gesture or screen input devices? All this stuff is around since years. The only difference is that the rest of the competition is even less innovative so it seems that Apple appears innovative.
i invented the internet. oh wait, that was al gore!
apple handheld… i like it. let’s see what comes…
No taumel, I wasn’t suggesting that, they obviously didn’t invent said features, but the implementation is very noteworthy and that hasn’t been done before… well as far as I’m aware. It’s a very smart device that will ride the wave of the iPod.
You’d be quite hard pressed to find tech that’s groundbreaking these days.
Cheers!
Yep and this is what i call a great evolution but not a revolution - marketing might call it this way or fanboys. ;O)
By the way as this has been the keynote, will there be more or does that mean that there won’t be any updates until the next event (what and when will this be) on the not so beloved computer front at Apple Inc.? You know stuff like computer refreshs, next os and so on.
Not that it wasn’t a entertaining presentation but availability is quite some time away (the end of this year here) no matter how huge the mobile market is.
I’d say the revolution is in usability, rather than in laundry-list capabilities. So in terms of usability it’s a revolution, but it’s also an evolution–or downright boring–in it’s actual capabilities list. Still useful for the price. And for me (not for everyone), usability trumps all else.
The notable specific innovation is multitouch: a more useable touchscreen than has existed before. You could say that any UI is old news since UIs have existed before, but this UI (hardware and software married, as is Apple’s strength) actually does some new things. Like pinch-zooming, and the ability to have extra fingers resting on the display without ill effects.
As for Unity games, supposedly Apple has not (yet?) opened the platform up to other developers (though hacks may come).
But Web games sound possible IF it’s able to install plug-ins, and if it uses an Intel CPU of some kind. (Maybe something like a low power Core 2 Solo?)
If plug-ins cannot be installed (which I could understand, for the sake of appliance-like reliability) then we’d better hope they choose Unity as one of the pre-installed ones
I also would not assume that fun Unity gaming is impossible on the thing’s chipset. An Intel GMA950 Mac Mini can’t play UT2004 much, but does great with my Clockwork game in Unity. And we do see some basic 3D in the iPhone’s UI. So it’s possible that some Unity games could run fine and be fun on the iPhone’s browser. Fun does not always demand AAA-level polycounts and textures.
I doubt we’ll have many of these answers soon, but it will be exciting to find out.
Re other events, and non-iPhone products: yes, they could come at any time. Apple calls special press events whenever they need. They are not limited to the 2-3 big expos when it comes to new products.
For instance, a special event to show the final Leopard (maybe before it’s truly done and shipping) would not surprise me.
And in a few weeks when the iPhone buzz dies down, other new products might come. (May I dream of a 10" MB Pro?)
And smaller updates, like faster Mini or new displays, might not even need a press gathering at all.
Sorry i still don’t see a revolution here. Where can i get those Apple glasses again? :O)
It looks like pretty well thought out gadget but there is simply nothing revolutionary in it. There for sure has been a lot of work done to get it all working together nicely but what’s inside is just common sense if you would be given the task “What would you like to see in such a tool in the near future”.
Would you have come up with the idea yelling at the phone in belarussian or steering the phone by your nose? It might have been cool if sensors would track were you’re looking at and scroll/select by this…
Apple does a better job on such things than others do but just out of a lack of common sense of their competitors i wouldn’t like to call it revolutionary. Among the blind a one-eyed is the king.
As far as i know there also have been other devices before which allow you to interact with more than one input at the same time. If Apple got this done nicely in the iPhone great but i get headaches again if i think of patents which might cover weird issues like using two fingers at the same time, using fingers as a input device and so on… These trivial patents really do suck!
Can i use this phone for VoiceOverIP? It would have been nice to have a voice recognition for SMS instead of typing in each letter by a tiny display again. It seems that again i can’t exchange the batttery on my own. Is there anything known about the battery life yet? Ahh anyway i’m sure it will sell well.
As for the cpu as far as i known we’ll see this year the U7500 (based on Merom 1.06Ghz with a TDP of 11Watt) and the Solo versions (U2100/U2200 with 5Watt and 1.2 and 1.06 Ghz). For the iTV, oh sorry AppleTV, they might have used some of the new LowVoltage Meroms out of the L7000 serie (7200 or 7400 which clock at 1.33 and 1.5Ghz with 4MB shared L2-Cache, TDP at 17Watt). And then there will be the die shrink to 45nm.
For games it looks like this is a NoGo at the moment due to that they want to keep it closed which beside of keeping things clean and easy in the beginning also is a downside as smartphones exactly offer the flexibility to offer your own applications on the phones. lol Same as with the consoles right?! :O)
Maybe it will be possible to run a unityweb file in safari depending on what’s left of safari and what the gfx-chip and the osx version is supporting. I find widgets creepy as they stay in memory. Somehow okayish for small stuff but doesn’t make sense to me for games at all.
Thanks for the rest of the information.
Apparently from a news reporter at CES. You can get 13hrs or so out of it IF you use it for mundane tasks and music. But the minute you start watching vids, playing on the net and using the phone e.t.c you’ll top out at 4hrs+ give or take.
Cheers
~t
Ah okay…
Revolutions occur almost exclusively among those who can’t see what’s happening right in front of them. You don’t lessen it because hindsight makes it obvious. Just saying…
As usual, it’s the pompous elite that are the blind. In this case, the current cell phone money mongers. You are kidding yourself if you don’t think that all the major cell phone hardware makers aren’t having long, fierce, heated discussions about what to do next. That’s a form of revolution.
I’ll admit, however, that they were beginning to come around over the last year or so… slowly… evolution speed, I guess you’d call it. It lessens the impact of the (3 years in development) iPhone. For instance, just a couple years ago, getting music and stuff to sync over to a cell phone couldn’t happen because it might infringe on those $5 10 second ring tones.
I know many people who HATE to use their cell phones and use almost none of those features thrust upon them because the interface is far too involved for simple tasks. For those people, as well, this will be a revolution.
The iPod was criticized of being only an evolutionary change, but if you don’t call that a revolution, then I guess the term simply has no part in technology.
In the end, however, it’s all semantics. It is what it is, and I can’t afford it.
(P.S. Other things I haven’t seen mentioned here: Steve hinted at other collaborations with Cingular coming in the vein of the random access voice mail. Plus, the interface being virtually limitless means many new and interesting apps are probably cooking right now. It’s not open but the clamor for openness will be deafening. Also, the dock connector allows for any type of add-on you can think of, I’d imagine.)