Is the current VR, HTC Vive, Oculus Rift etc. actually VR?

What’s been bothering me for a while, is companies proclaiming their product to be “virtual reality”. It is supposed to give you an immersion of that you exist in a different world - but do they really do that?

I mean, in my opinion, it’s just a screen in front of your face. What makes this VR? Then, technically, a TV-screen is VR. Just not as immersive as the Oculus or the Vive, I want to hear what you think. Is this the “future of VR”, or is the fictional FullDive the way to go? Now, I don’t want this to be another “omg is the swordz artu online-kun vr finelly camming?”, don’t relate this to Sword Art Online.

My point is having a fully immersive virtual reality world, whereas your brain’s nerve signals are manipulated to make you feel you’re actually in the virtual world, and not to fake it by placing screen in front of your face. You’ll actually feel that you’re in the game - just like you feel you’re in the real world.

I mean, what makes virtual reality is your perception of the world, not a screen which moves when your head does. I do know that what you see has a huge impact on your perception, but unless we can make what we see, hear and feel 100% immersive, it cannot be called virtual reality. In my opinion. I need some for- and against-arguments, as I know I might be wrong at some points; but I believe my vision is still correct.

Don’t misunderstand me - I believe the Vive and Oculus is amazing - I love them - but I do not think they’re VR.

Gimme some opinions!

Have you tried VR? its not just a display in your face. With the head tracking, real 3d and other stuff it really feels like you are there. Even if the current generation displays are not perfect and there is no full fov you quickly forget them if the game or environment is done well enough. Add the controllers or things like leap motion in the mix and it’s pretty good VR experience to me.

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Of course I have. I would not argue for something I don’t have experience with.

I don’t think it’s a good VR experience - it’s a good visual game experience. I did not take today’s specs into consideration because I know they’re not done yet - but what I want to hear is if it really is VR, or just games with new controllers.

Full Dive is at least 50 years away, if not a full century.

Current technologies, however, track your head position/orientation, and provide decent visual portion of VR experience. Support for the other senses is mostly missing.

Honestly, I don’t understand people’s obsession with Full Dive. What’s so fun in living in VR life while your body is rotting away in meatspace? (and you WILL come back from VR at some point).

See “Surrogates” movie for more info on that

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I see and understand your point, and it is very valid - it is all about interests, and some people might find it more enjoyable to play around with an vive or oculus rather than be in the world itself. I do not disagree on that.

I still do not believe it is virtual reality, though. As a friend of mine said; it’s rather Vi__sual__ Reality (although visual reality isn’t a thing, lol). I know it feels pretty immersive using the vive and rift, but I still believe people use the word VR too easily. As I mentioned earlier, the oculus and vive are both awesome, but as a controller, not as VR.

This quote could have been in direct response to the OP. It doesn’t really matter what we call it. The actual thing is still the same. Names are the handles we as a society agree to use. So as long as the world calls vive, occulus ect VR, then it actually is VR.

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Are current hoverboards really hoverboards?

Ugh, I don’t even like to call those things “hoverboards”. . . mostly because they’re not. :sweat_smile:
However, current VR is pretty close to sci-fi VR, and tbh I would prefer it over “Full Dive” VR any day. . . Unless it could somehow work when you were sleeping, that could be kind of cool, and waste less time. . . :smile:

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Agreed. Unfortunately the term has stuck.

I personally feel that “real” vr would include haptic feedback and tethered motion via treadmill or something, but… baby steps. :wink:

That comment reminded me of a video I had seen a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7n5kRRHDpw

Look, most words do not have “one and only correct definition”. “VR headset” fits current tech. It is more precise than, for example, “3d tv” which weren’t 3d (and more like “stereo vision system”).

Sword Art Online-style tech, by the way, most likely will be instantly banned when someone invents it. See, that (fictional) headset had power to override all your sensory input AND shutdown all your motor signals - without surgery or implants.

First thing people will do when someone comes up with something like this is extend its range and hard-wire it to stop hearts instead of showing pictures of virtual worlds.

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