It’s a message for the Unity team and everybody can reply.
I have an idea to improve the learning process and attract more clients.
On the official tutorial page : https://unity3d.com/fr/learn/tutorials
There is only one big complete project with animations and stuff : survival shooter.
The community on youtube made more tutorials.
I think we could have oficial tutorials about complete projects for every kind :
3rd person
fps
network
rts
tycoon
race
sport
When I choose a game engine, I look at the resources and the tutorials to see if I will be able to acomplish my objective. In the case of if I’m stuck somewhere and the scripting tutorials or the forum don’t help me enough.
The Unity team made the engine (the most dificult part), so they know how to use it and can explain in details how to manage the different game logics.
And I don’t think it’s too expensive to give this task to an employee sometimes (one week by tutorial).
Unity is designed to make game development easy.
Proposing base mechanics with best practice to not reinvent the wheel.
I don’t ask for obscure tools but projects with code that we can study/customize and assets.
A lot of people pass by the assets store to buy tools than can become obsolete.
The tutorials on youtube can be irrelevant.
Other societies sell books about Unity.
It proves that there is a high demand of tutorials by the public.
This is my humble thought.
Thank you for your attention.
I talk from the beginner and client point of view.
Why the client should make all the efforts, taking longtime to learn by itselft and not be sure of its code ?
If he’s not a genius at coding, he won’t know how to do perfectly certain things.
Why is it bad if Unity releases more complete tutorials ?
Although some kids do it for free on youtube. It’s nonsense.
And a lot of people buy tools on assets store to make the development faster or easier but these tools are not official and can become obsolete with the version changing.
It is better if we learn to create these tools with the help of Unity.
The entire point of those tutorials is to teach you the basics. Not to hold your hand every single step of the way through every single game you’re interested in making. If someone never graduates beyond that point then they may simply not be cut out for game development.
It’s completely normal and expected for people to move beyond the basics. You didn’t keep crawling after you learned how to properly work your muscles and achieve sufficient balance to start walking, did you?
No. Businesses don’t sell their software to everyone. Some companies will outright deny licenses to their software if you don’t meet a certain required criteria. Unity and Unreal are far more willing to deal with hobbyists but they don’t stand to make much if any money off of purely hobbyist developers because you aren’t required to buy Unity unless you make a certain threshold.
I never talked about not graduating beyond that point.
I’m sure some people are interested in that, it’s a resource in more.
But maybe now they will be afraid to talk because they will be seen as newbie but it’s not the case.
It’s looking for best practices and a good base, not reinventing the wheel.
And after we can customize, creating something more.
For example :
If I program a RTS, I will do a selection rectangle a certain way.
But there are other ways more effective to program that.
I don’t know where you got that impression from but in my honest opinion it is a very mistaken one. We constantly are getting people on these forums, especially in the Getting Started section, that are asking for assistance learning because they never found the Unity Learn section. If they’re willing to ask for assistance finding learning materials I don’t see why they would be afraid to ask for assistance outside of those learning materials.
If you’re in the business industry, maybe you just want to share easy free knowledge but you’re afraid that creating a complete game become mainstream.
Because you don’t have real argument agaisn’t my idea. It seems like a taboo.
I know that teaching is a business, there are a lot of books etc…
You’re acting like nobody here was ever a beginner or something. The entire purpose of the learn section is to teach you. Not primarily how to do big things like make an MMO or a soccer game, but how to do the smaller things that make up common features among all games and how to do those things in Unity. Nobody is expecting anyone to be a genius, just to be able to learn and teach themselves.
Because complete tutorials are generally a mess all around unless they’re for small projects so you can get a better idea how to do things. They’re a waste of resources because so few people can use them effectively and they’re a pain in the ass to learn from.
Although some kids do it for free on youtube. It’s nonsense.
So make sure you buy assets that have a history of decent support.
Yes, if you have all the time in the world, sure.
Why would I tell Epic Games what I think is unnecessary when I’m using the Unity forums?
By the way I highly recommend anyone actually interested in assisting newcomers to learn Unity take part in the official section of the forums dedicated to this. At this point in time we only have a relative few who are regularly taking part in it.
If you need motivation consider that in order to teach a subject you need to be knowledgeable about it yourself. Teaching is thus a very effective form of learning and I’ve picked up knowledge in areas that I was not familiar with doing it.
Because no matter what unity does, you’ll still have to spend at least a month or two learning the engine before you’ll be able to fully utilize it. There’s no way around it. Also, you do not need to do things “perfectly” in order to deliver a product.
If you want fast result immediately, simply hire someone else to do the work for you. I mean, you can’t, for example, just buy a grand piano and expect to be able to play it if you never studied music. Same with the engine.
Because there’s truckload of problems people would prefer to have fixed instead of having more tutorials. There’s not that much of a difference between different genres when you know the API.
That’s actually wrong. The goal is to maximize their profits, not to sell the software to everybody. In case of unity, it means making people pay for subscription.
By offering free version of unity, unity makes a bet - in the off chance of your success, they’ll get cash out of it. A person who released something and doesn’t simply want a “dark pro skin” for no reason, will not need tutorials anymore. They’ll want bugfixes. At least that’s how I see it.
One thing I’d love to have done is adding full text transcription for all existing video tutorials (because I hate video tutorials), but I don’t really see much point in making complete game projects.
This. Epic did much the same thing themselves. They made a bet that there would be people out there capable of making successful games that normally wouldn’t be able to afford the hundreds of thousands that the engine used to cost that it was worth giving away their engine and only charging royalties.
Someone who never goes beyond the learning resources though is not actually among them.
Making a simple game is very easy in Unity.
The goal of Unity was to make game creating accessible to the most people.
Before, it was really more difficult with C++ and OpenGL.
But when you reach a high level of features, it reassures you if you see that it’s possible.
I talked before about basic stuff, it’s good to learn the best practice with examples.
And for advanced stuff, for example facial animation, I don’t see an oficial tutorial about that.
I have to look on the forum or on google etc.
We are used to that, imperfection. But why you don’t want to change that and make it better ?
if the scripting tutorials weren’t there, you would say to a guy asking for that : “look at the documentation classes and fend for yourself.”
I still don’t understand why you’re agaisnt my proposition.
I mean : what it will do agaisn’t you ? You won’t loose anything. If you don’t like that, you won’t look at it.
Maybe the Unity team is busy at something else. But its a big company with a lot of people doing more difficult things. I think it wouldn’t take too long and I don’t ask for mega tutorials.
Anyway thanks for your answers. I’m very curious about Unity team’s opinion.
This sounds like a lack of confidence issue rather than a Unity problem and no amount of tutorials will fix that.
Because we have the learn section which gets updated semi-frequently. And here’s the thing: Unity is not here to hold your hand. You WILL have to venture outside of the Learn section eventually and do your own thing. Don’t pin everything on Unity.
The goal of unity is to make money, as far as I’m aware.
The best practice is to stop worrying about “best practices”. You need to design simplest possible solution that does what you need. Then you’ll optimize it IF it is necessary. See “KISS principle” on wikipedia.
“unity facial animation” on google returns bunch of hits, leading to asset store, blog posts, and mixamo articles. This one’s covered.
Because people have things to do and bills to pay, and because making tutorials is not exactly fun in many situations.
Are you willing to pay someone to make more tutorials? For the greater good or something like that. Or you could make your own tutorials, put them on youtube and attempt to earn money via some sort of monetization.
They would have to compete with all of the other people selling high quality books. From my experience we have never had a problem with recommending good books to people interested in them. Most of the time people just don’t want one.
