So i hired a guy from the forum who seems to have enough experience to make what im looking for, he said he will do it in 1 week, now more than 2 months and he didint finish it and even start to ignore my messages… every time i “had the chance” to have a conversation with him he always come up with excuses, some are like he is working on multiple projects and bugs appear (same bugs/errors every time, mean he dont even fix them) and he always give delays and never respect them, like he will send me a version after 2 hours and take 5 days to even replay/contact me etc… the delay on paypal to open a dispute is already over (not much $150 but it still money, god knows how hard i worked to get them).
And he even posted a WIP image from my project without my permission lol what a nightmare person !!
Guess what he told me last time ? he said his lawyer will make sure he will get the rest of the money even if the project is canceled, really pff!!
It was really a big mistake and i want to make sure no one else will experience this with him so i writed everything…
Its not the full payement, its what i paid so far, also its more like a warning messages for other people who think to hire him, tried to post a feedback on his thread but wasent able “(Please see reply restrictions that apply here.)”
They make it tough for competent freelancers who follow through on what they say they will do and are capable of. They screw the pooch for themselves, make those wishing to hire wary of freelancers and cause competent freelancers to have to jump through too many hoops and put themselves in the precarious position of getting ripped off by the stricture to perform first, send them the work to adjudicate and then the contracting party just absconding with the work.
It could be more than one day, depending on freelancer’s country.
Those kind of threads usually get closed because unity does not deal with freelancing disputes.
To avoid those situations it is usually the best to handle payments through freelancing website with escrow/arbitration service and terminate contract as soon as anything goes wrong.
I would cut the losses and terminate contact with the freelancer in this particular case. And speaking of “lawyers”… you do have a contract with a deadline, right? (right?) Because it is possible to the dude is trying to scare you into paying.
I even went too far… i asked him to send me the project with the current errors and i will deal with it myself, but like usual he didint even bother to replay.
He’ll have a very hard time getting any money out of you, lawyer or not.
On another hand it means he might be legally allowed to post WIP pictures of your project, because you don’t have any sort of agreement or NDA.
Basically, both of you messed up in this case.
You need agreements, ndas, etc, and you need them signed. You also need an escrow service. Without all that, you cut your losses at the first sign that the person is not trustworthy.
Yes i noticed that late lol, i usually work with people that i know (friends, friends of a friend etc) and never thought about a contract since a minimum of trust is already exist, but yeah we both messed up, its an experience in the end
Basically… escrow protection, contracts, ndas, and assume that the other guy might decide to screw you over unless you worked with them for a while and they’ve proven to be trustworthy.
There’s always a chance you’ll run into people that are not capable of doing the job that you need done.
This is especially the case if you need someone to get on board with a project in mid development.
So even if he did send you that project with bugs you would still be better off starting from scratch.
Next time you need help better message all of the active freelancers on the forum. You’re guaranteed to find a capable person and you’ll get to know the price ranges.
that kind of dispute could be solved with a system similar to the one used in freelancer, ie …
freelance people would apply , post skills, get contacted and rated/commented by employers.
notice that it also happens that employers are complete c…ts.
I can relate. If I wouldn’t trust someone enough to do work without a contract that usually means I wouldn’t want to work with them at all. But it’s easy for me to say since ~95% of my jobs are for clients I’ve know for years and the other ~5% are people I know personally.
Well it does sound like you are exaggerating just a bit although I agree that if you get a finished project it will take longer than you wanting with a good chance they won’t finish the project… I refuse to take pay when I say I’ll help someone out. I either do or I don’t.
Why haven’t you posted a complaint in that person’s thread? What I don’t understand is why Unity forums doesn’t allow you a dispute to that person in the for hire in that thread. It’s protecting the guilty at the expense of the innocent. If the thread turns into a hissy fit then it serves as a warning to other about hiring the involved or the taking contract from the involved depending on the evidence and civility of the exchange. That said, politicians are very, very civil in behavior but… - evidence first and foremost.
It’s not all roses on the freelancer side. I have a client that owes me about 2k I’ll probably never see.
Your best bet with these relationships is to start small, get a feel for how they operate and then ramp things up. Though even then things might not work out. The client that ended in payment failure mode was someone I had worked with for a couple years.
This type of stuff is real common in business circles and most W-2 style employees never have to interface with all the crap that happens in business to business relationships.
I think it stemmed from people posting fake accounts on threads to pad themselves or lambasting the contracting party for asking for the whole golf course for the price of a drink at the watering hole. One is bogus and phony and the other a justified cowboy boot up their arse. As you said about politicians. In the immortal words of Stan Lee 'nuff said
Well, I still don’t understand you the OP is not complaining in the thread of the offending freelancer what than a thread in the Discussion section where mainly a few dozen regular gossipers hang out.
Is Unity forums not allowing that? Makes no sense in that case then for them to allow people to actively solicit for paid work. I can understand the need to be civil in those threads but potential consumers should be informed in the original thread posting the solicitation not the discussion section.
