Reddit can silently hide all of your mesages/topics

Any of you thinking about marketing your game on reddit should read my story:

https://www.gamedev.net/forums/topic/695190-reddit-can-silently-hide-all-of-your-mesagestopics/

Basically reddit can put your account into a “shadowban” mode, where you would see your own messages but nobody else would see them. I lost like two weeks worth of posts and comments there due to this and feel myself like a fool.

Here is how to avoid it: log off from time to time and check if you see your own posts - if you don’t you are shadowbanned.

I’ve been shadowbanned a couple of times too but always got some sort of a notification about it and a link to the shadowban test subreddit + other instructions.

Isn’t the whole point of it that you don’t know about it? Also what does one need to do to get banned multiple times there? I’m not familiar with reddit culture.

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Well, I guess it works if everyone but me knows about it’s effects. It’s curious though, cuz once you know how it works its insanely easy to spot and circumvent. Oh well, from what I’ve learned since my “accident” I would never trust reddit again. It’s quite shocking to see such blatant censorship from a popular western social media.

are there any mods prowling reddit? I think you should talk to them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowBan/comments/6an2bv/an_unofficial_guide_on_how_to_avoid_being/

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Why would you be shadowbanned in the first place?

Seems like what people usually mean with “promote your game on reddit” is not allowed on reddit.

Thanks for the helpful list @Ryiah

This thread is very thinly related to game dev and Unity though and almost got locked. Had to read twice.

Yeah good call on game marketing, helps to ensure you have a good reputation before you start.

Well every shadowban I’ve received I have had to contact reddit employee as subreddit mods cant do anything. Every single one of the bans have been a false one due reddit algorithms being trigger happy and I assume that’s partly the reason why at least some subreddits have bots scanning and giving notifications about it.

Never created a thread in reddit, behaved badly nor promoted anything :stuck_out_tongue:

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Doesn’t seem like reddit is a good place to directly market. I would not do that. I would instead create a support page / network for people to chat and help each other. Direct marketing seems like a dumb thing and should be banned.

Otherwise you’re going to just turn reddit into a free for all advertising platform nobody uses any more.

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Being shadowbanned is specific to the subreddit, so he broke some rules on that particular subreddit in order to be shadowbanned.

There’s really no link to what he did to be banned, just whining about shadowbanning. That’s not even relevant to this forum

What was your “accident”? Because that whole thread you linked is a serious mess and overly confusing.

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Reading over your lengthy thread, it looks like you repeatedly violated the rules of the subreddit and they had to shadowban you to keep you from doing it again.

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I sympathize with you. Reddit is heavy handed on banning and silencing. Granted, yes, you probably violated their terms and you should generally not do that. However, lots of places have rules but the mods don’t all act like Benito Mussolini. That’s probably all I should say about Reddit. But rest assured, my comment will be posted on some obscure sub with my username blacked out so people can anonymously express their distaste.

Any form of social media where people can freely comment, post images and comments and yell at you (about how good your game is of course) is better than some heavily moderated discussion format. Also, generally avoid dev communities. People are haters.

Twitter is also useless.

Unless things have changed, mods cant shadowban. They can ban you temporarily/permanently if they don’t like someones posts but then you are also notified about it and fully blocked on doing anything.

Shadowban however is an automatic system “ban” based on behavior algorithms and subreddit mods cant do anything about even if they wanted to, this includes unbanning the shadowban status. The system does not always work correctly which is why they dont block you from posting. Only reddit admins manually remove these bans and they probably check the reason at the same time to adjust the system on false positives.

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Maybe your just doing it wrong? :face_with_spiral_eyes:

:smile: What are your thoughts on other social medias @Master-Frog ?
facebook
tumbler
flicker
youtube
twitch
TIGSource
instragram
dev blogs?

Twitter is extremely useful in promotion, lots of devs - even larger studios - use Twitter very successfully and gain a lot of traction with it.

If people aren’t receptive to your content, then its generally a problem with content, not the platform used to distribute it.

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Not long ago i joined reddit to advertise my assets. I noticed people hate when you do that there. Unless subredit is for advertising assets… Which is nothing strange of course, people hate that everywhere. Just, for some reason i feel level of hate there is stronger. :roll_eyes:

Reddit is pretty fickle since the entire spectrum of personalities can upvote/downvote your posts so it’s important to be appealing to the general public in what you post or at least be sure that the vast majority of that subreddit is very interested in what you’re posting.

People dislike advertisements in general so if you’re going to promote a product you have to do it the right now and in the right places. Subreddits need to be pruned of content like that because if they weren’t then it would turn into a cess pool of advert garbage that no one wants to see.

Shadowbans are not something the average user needs to worry about. Except in rare circumstances or things like autokicks, bans are not handed out lightly.

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