Ui scroll view content scaling problems

Hello,
I have an problem with my scroll view’s content that does not want to scale content in a empty object without a horizontal layout group.
I want it to scale the content to the right size so i dont have to use a horizontal scroll.

Image 1 is a empy group with right ancors.
Image 2 is a group with horizontal layout group.
Image 3 is the group content without the vertical layout group.
Image 4 is the group content with the vertical layout group.

The moment i turn on the vertical layout group Image 1 gets so small you almost cant see it (image 5).