I have a great plan for a game, I think iPhone is the best platform for it and I was going to buy Unity iPhone but then I found out that it is only for Mac. Why is that? Is it ever going to change? I’m not going to buy a new computer just to use Unity. It would be different if I was a professional game developer but I’m just a poor student. This really sucks. I strongly suggest adding Windows support if it is possible.
You can not create iphone games on windows.
iPhone development is an Apple OSX only thing, out of UTs control at all.
That’s just Apple. To make a iPhone game, buy both iPhone and Mac. I thought they would make enough money already with their overpriced products.
Maybe I need to buy a used Mac… There’s no way I’m giving Apple any more money.
Well just ensure its one that fullfills the requirement to install and use the iphone sdk at all
On CGTalk there was a thread about overpricecd Mac hardware. Seems a comparably outfitted PC costs approximately 500USD more. As to your other comments. I find it hilarious that you diss Macs and then want to make money off their users. :lol:
Macs are good computers but I’m just angry becouse everything related to Apple is so expensive. I want to develop for iPhone but I don’t want to buy Apples whole product line to get started.
They have been and always will be the little extra that all of the users pay. The PC laptops have gotten better with out of box usefulness, just they arent a Mac though. And Idk about you, but if I have to pay extra to have my customer support speak the same english I speak, and not have an indian guy tell me while reading from his prompts that he cannot understand me, well then thats what Im gonna pay. (No disrespect to anybody here), but being on the phone with dell, verizon or whoever the US companies decides to outsource tech work is fu… is greatly not respected.
If you were really against giving apple any more income (as I am with Microsoft and their 360 or any other half assed product they can afford to drone out improperly), you can always hit up ebay or craigslist in your area for apple tech, it doesnt take all that power to work unity, just depends on your style, and Im sure the laptop I have been working on now thats probably 5 years old with some dings is around what you would pay for the used mac mini, and DEFINITELY the better buy. The HD, RAM, and laptop battery could all be purchased at slightly over 100 bucks if you look effectively online, and its pretty straightforward to swap a bigger hd in one of these. If not check out ifixit.com for your comp.
And I was in the same sitch looking at options, and as far as PC options, although note that this is not endorsed or supported by Unity, Apple or the like, are commonly found x86 Projects, more commonly referred to as Hackintoshes.
Id mention Psystar, but they seem to have been sniped out by Apple as quickly as they were started up, but they also seem to be all about the customers as well. But again I mention that although this is a long shot by any means, you will have no support with hardware/software, and with the iphone sdk its not “allowed”.
Well good luck and let me know how you work out. 
Everything I was gonna say has just been said. Well put.
And on the note of Hackintoshes, you’re missing more than half the point of buying a Mac in the first place. Buying a Mac isn’t just about software alone, it’s about the complete user experience. The hardware is all high quality and works flawlessly together, the tech support people know what they’re talking about, and if it breaks under warranty you WILL get a replacement (as long as it’s not exceptionally your fault :P). If you make a Hackintosh, you only get the software part. And even then it’s finicky and a PITA.
And always remember, lower upfront cost does NOT equate to overall savings. EVER. Be it hot rolled steel, a pair of pants, or a computer. And especially in the tech sector.
If you plan on buying a Mac for the first time, I highly recommend PowerMax. They have good selection, good prices, great support and customer relations.
I know Apple iPhone is the popular kid on the block but according to this article I just read it seems Android has passed them in market share…could always just wait and develop for that platform when it’s ready…soon I hope? I personally want nothing to do with anything Apple after my experiences with them all the way up to corporate level.
Yes, my first thinking about that was Android too, it looks like Android will grow fast in the next months, because many companies announced hardware with the Android OS and it is easier to develop for this OS. But after all, look for what the next months happens.
Android, the OS seems really interesting, but isn’t it only the software? I mean, there will be dozens of different Android phones, some with little memory and CPU/GPU power and some with lots of prosessing power and different screen resolutions and… That’s what I hate about phones (all but iPhone), you really don’t know what kind of hardware is going to run your app.
Correct me if I’m mistaken, I only heard about Android just now.
Edit: It also seems that there’s no suppot for Android Market here in Finland (link), so I could not sell any apps there.
Source: Wikipedia
First Unity for Android must come out and then see if finland have a Android Market Place. But on Android you can sell your Apps not only over the Market Place, you can sell it over your own homepage.
I dont know how it is with the different hardware on Android.
Seems someone did a very poor job doing a price comparison.
There is zero question Apple hardware is overpriced. You are paying for the name.
Apple doesn’t have a monopoly on good warranties and product replacement. There are plenty of PC manufacturers that offer excellent warranty plans.
One thing Apple does have going for it is that they have to worry about virus issues less. This is not due to anything they do, but instead its because their market share is so low, very few even bother writing viri for them.
Yeah. The guys in that thread were only some of the top in the CG SFX and 3D moviemaking world. Ya know…like guys who run the servers at ILM who are low level know nothings that are Mac fanboiz…heh… WTF would they know about hardware, soundchips, video, RAM, busses and other tech. At the end many of the original naysayers decided to buy a Mac and run Windoze on it. It booted quicker on a Mac as well. And the reason there is no virii is not why you state. It is because it is based on a Unix flavor that banks use to keep their data secure from prying thieves of all stripes and methodologies… Kinda tough to just take over. You have to trojan the user and make them click on something… No auto-install of malware here. Got any more psuedomyths need puncturing. Check your PC for that NSAkey.dll. You know you write seven ghost files for every file you save? My mac doesn’t have a key the NSA can snoop into my comp with and I don’t waste HD space writing ghost files I know nothing about.
This guy is right.
Although I disagree about the ILM guys. I know people who work there, and the system admins are mostly know nothing button pushing Windows fools who got hired because it looked like they had good credentials. They know almost nothing about the Linux system they administer (yes, ILM uses Linux, and Macs for print servers).
The lack of serious virii in OSX is only partly due to the seemingly low market share. It is due to a number of factors, and here’s a list of some of the major ones: The more secure nature of the kernel (OSX is based on Mach which was developed at MIT. Mach checks every call made to the CPU to check it’s validity and ensure it has permission to do what it does, which means for a virus to really do any damage the admin would have to type in their password to give it permission), the more security oriented support team (Apple constantly releases security patches, and hires black hats to find them), and the general lack of user acceptance for things that are broken (John Gruber explains this phenomenon very well in his article “Broken Windows”).
And you, Bluster, are the arrogant fool who didn’t do their research. Could you stop recirculating this kind of BS.
And could someone please link to that thread on CGTalk? I can’t seem to find it.
OSX is at the time the most insecure OS thats used broadly. That has been proofen several times in the past 12 months at security conventions where OSX was commonly hacked through in even less time than Windows.
Might be that it was better during the PPC days potentially or just of totally no interest to be hacked for proofing that security is a major concern but by today, when you decide basing on security concerns, OSX is the worst OS, because its the least secure OS and to make it worse, thanks to Apple claiming it isn’t and that it is all nice and fine, there is close to no serious security application market and healthy competition. People just life in their dreamworld that there is no problem and see no reason to invest money into securing their ass, unlike Windows users.
Thats likely what makes the iPhone OS even more interesting and important to them, because it avoids all these problems through Apple signing.
And just to clean out fanboyism: I think each of the 3 major OS has its place and work a high amount of time on Windows and OSX. So its not about being against anything aside of missleading information.
wow.
your use of ‘windoze’ makes me think you’re right! ‘Fanboiz’ was just icing on the cake.
Ahh, yes, but were these Macs exploited through built in software or third party software like Flash? Because most of what I can find about OSX security issues are related to things like Flash and other components that are out of Apple’s control. For example, JDK and PCRE. Realize also that Apple is engaged in the whole iPad/iPhone thing, which is taking up resources normally applied to OSX.
And please don’t go quoting ZDI pwn2own stats on hackability of operating systems. The acclaimedly most difficult to hack OS will fall first no matter what. It’s about the glory, and the best hackers will all try for that. Hacking Linux… Not so glorious. Hacking Windows, has been done for years. Hacking OSX, now there’s a glorious challenge. That’s how this works.
I’m not saying that OSX is the most secure OS out there. That title falls to OpenBSD by a huge margin. I’m just saying that OSX is more secure than Windows (and don’t try to pretend it isn’t), has a a highly superior kernel, handles threading and multiple cores better, is less prone to have issues with crapware (everything from adware to malicious cookies and packets), is more consistent in user experience, and ships with high quality hardware.
Did you know that every new Mac sold today is rated EPEAT Gold for energy efficiency?
But damned if I’ll continue and spoil this thread even more.
Let’s cut this offtopic please. Altough I mentioned my frustration towards Apple I didn’t mean to start a Mac vs PC war.
Any opinions on how to deal with different Android hardwares? People is used to change graphics settings on PC but not on phone, so I think it is important to get any game run on any Android phone without configuration, somehow… And does every Android phone have touch screen? If not that would be a major problem.
Is there any info what kind of GPU those phones have? I couldn’t find anything related to that… Also, is the main RAM used as VRAM?
Damn I hate this hardware confusion.
android phones range on the cpu end from stuff that can’t start unity to 1ghz snapdragons.
the gpu end ranges from “worse than the original iphone” to “theoretically more powerfull than 3GS”
RAM looks similary scattered
the screens have a pretty large range of possible resolutions too
and to make it really bad: even the hardware capabilities on multitouch etc aren’t granted!