Wild speculation about next gen consoles anyone?

I’m going with:

Marching cubes with destructible and dynamic terrain, touch screen controllers that double and handhelds for 720, valve throwing their hat in the ring, and Sony ditching the number names for their console (kinda embarrassing that the PS3 “will be around for 10 years” and the name PS4 would remind people of that promise).

What about you guys?

The hardware specs are already known. The new PlayStation is probably called Orbis. As for controllers, that’s where things will be interesting, to me. That, and who buys who. I think it’s pretty clear that Sony and Nintendo aren’t going to exist very much longer. I predicted Valve’s rumored approach to consoles, in 2006. In 2010, I said Apple would buy Nintendo and Microsoft would buy Sony. 2015 is the deadline for all that.
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I’m probably being very unfair in singling you out for this - since it’s a commonly repeated mistake, but just because the PS4 might come out one day doesn’t mean the PS3 will vanish the following day. The PS2 continued to sell in huge numbers long after the PS3 was out and I see no reason to believe the PS3 wouldn’t do the same. The same is true of the XBox 360, by the way, except that it’s a year older. A lot of people are not ready for a next generation, and I suspect there will be a slow uptake of all new generation consoles at first. Many will just buy the existing ones for a (newly) reduced price.

I do realize that consoles continue to sell after the next release. And, oh wait. I guess the years could add up to 10 years, 2006 release date, 1-2 years till PS4 release, and 2-4 years continued sales. But that’s only if the thing doesn’t get shipped out until 2014 and if the PS3 has an unprecedented second wind that last for four years despite its embarrassing sales and in-the-red endeavor.

LOLWhat?

Sony do a lot more than just consoles - hell while they have been having some difficulty recently they still have generate a dozen+ billion dollars more in revenue than MS.

Yeah, that and Nintendo out sold Sony and Microsoft put together and their handheld did twice that! Mario did so well it got two releases this time around, while Wii Fit is currently the top grossing game ever. Ever.

So I concur, LOLWhat?

2014 for one, 2015 the other.

I think you are confusing fandom with common business sense.

Oh, and I truly think that if Valve did join the fight that it would be a game changer so long as they keep the same rates:

-Who would ever give Microsoft or Sony 30% when Valve is offering 10%?
-Steam is swelled with Indie games due to its fair policies and that will stab at the big boys something fierce which may disassemble their little boy’s club on consoles.
-If they keep the pricing unregulated, we could finally see an end to the $60 stiff pricing that obligates developers to have a certain amount of content, while an elastic pricing would allow more games like Portal to come out.
-Piracy would take major blow.
-We could FINALLY do online gaming without having to go through PSN or Live, which KILLS bandwidth and has arbitrary pricing just to use your own internet connection.

Please.

I just wish the true power within the PS3 had been somewhat utilized… I’m definitely off of the Sony Console bandwagon (a bandwagon I used to really be on!). Also given Sony’s practices to sell feature-rich and then use legal means to strip the product to be feature-poor is more than disturbing.

@ David: Seriously, just look at the PS3’s reverse compatibility. The major “upgrade” to the 2nd rendition was that they removed PS2 compatibility so the could “use less parts to bring down cost”, then when people developed PS2 emulators for the PS3 Sony went after them instead of hiring them. It almost seems like Sony wants to sell more PS2’s so badly they are willing to cannibalize their new product.

@ Jessy: Please indeed:

My prediction =

PS vita will die buy end of 2013 (I’ve never seen one actually being used and the 3ds is half the price here) the Wii-u will be released and not make too much waves in the water but not a flop I predict it will launch with a couple of first party Nintendo games my guess is a new super Mario bros and maybe Zelda or a new series and then a fair few third party games, the 3DS will claim its pedestal of top handheld.
After the fall of the vita IOS, Android and windows phone 7 will start a AAA section and encourage big studios to make games for the handhelds i predict that a system for PlayStation phones that lets them play vita games(download) will come at ~2014.

The PS4 will be released and will just be a turbocharged PS3 probably have some nice launch games.

I believe that a new Xbox will be released just after the PS4 but it won’t be called the Xbox it will be a home entertainment system that runs metro and can fully run windows 8 applications it will have a Blu-ray player (I know people say that Sony won’t let that happen) it will mainly use motion controls but the controller will be comfortable on its side and can be used for hard core games.

After the release of this new system buy Microsoft Nintendo and Sony will both release system updates that make their systems rival this but Nintendo will fall slightly behind as it will run a complete custom os and Sony will run a modified android. meanwhile a IOS based apple TV will be released running similar specs to the ipad of that era (ipad 4) this will give the consoles a little struth as it will have a good motion controller(finger tracking) that will let you play all ios games the AAA that is now in IOS will make the consoles go slightly under but Nintendo will thrive over the rest due to the characters they own.

The end :slight_smile: just my thoughts I think a lot of purchasing of 3rd party companies to get the games as exclusives will haven in 2012 onwards but I doubt any console companies are going under… just think of how much Nintendo could sell Mario for.

Nintendo is not going anywhere (yet). They are in a very strong position right now. They didn’t have a great year in '11 but there were big reasons for this. The successor for the Wii is expected out this year, this means they were seriously pumping money into it’s development last year at the same time they were doing the launch of the 3DS, that launch also did not go as well as expected (mainly due to overpricing) but recovered acrobatically from it’s stumble as soon as the price was lowered (and a Mario title released.)

Sony will likely survive at least one more generation but don’t think they will be releasing a PS4 next year due to a horrible year overall (they were hurt in many fronts, not just gaming.)

Microsoft will very likely release their next console in 2013 or late this year (but my money is on '13.) No matter what, Microsoft will deliver the next XBox way ahead of Sony, they know that strategy worked for the X360 and will likely make sure they beat them to the market again on the next cycle.

As for how the market will look… We already know that Nintendo is incorporating an ipad-like gaming element to their next console and the hardware performance will be about the level of the current gen XBox, perhaps a bit under it (if we are to believe some rumors.) Microsoft and Sony will likely have their motion addons as standard features for their next gen devices. Their hardware will very likely be just as good as a top of the line PC is today (not in 2013, but today in April 2012.)

At least one of these guys will embrace an iOS like App Store but heavily regulated. Pricing will not be the free-for-all price at a whim that we see today in the App Store, but if they do, those cheap 99c titles will be as hidden away from the general game stores as the Live Indie Games for XBox are now.

I bet the first one to go this path will be Microsoft, but Sony may beat them. This is something that may even happen before the next gen arrives, currently the PS3 and the X360 are seeing heavy evolution in the software front and I would not be shocked if they decide to inject new life into it by opening the doors to a curated indie game store. Nintendo will very likely be the last one to adopt such a model.

I also think Apple will jump into this arena. The rumored game controller they are working on may not be intended for the iPad/iPhone but for the Apple TV instead.

And that, is my round of speculations for the next gen of TV based gaming.

It would be nice to see Steam try their hand at gaming in the living room, but after some research I came up with a few issues:
Firstly, take a look at the predicted “Steam Box”

  • Licensing will be an issue. You have to consider all the independent developers that publish for Steam.
    -Hardware. Can they really sell hardware without a loss? A “steam box” that could run “most standard PC games” (as said in the article, and can be assumed as some sort of PC-console conversion) would run > $1,000, which seems hella difficult to profit from without suffering loss, and then again there are those with steam who have a good enough PC already…
    -OS. well, this could go anywhere unless they got a standardized OS in mind.
  • added cost in this “console” with the suggested biometrics system.
    http://www.gamesradar.com/valve-has-three-big-surprises-for-us-is-experimenting-with-biometrics/

Otherwise, I think Valve would do quite well, as they got a few franchise up their sleeves that could carry these systems, perhaps.

I think these reports of the wii-u not keeping up with PS3 are a load of shit… look at the tech demos, they EASILY blow any PS3 or Xbox 360 game out of the water… fair enough that they are just a small scene but they also destroy the graphics demos of PS3 and Xbox 360.

I dont think nintendo has relesed anything about its graphical power exept that it has a similar architecture to Radeon R700… Nintendo and ATI have proboly been working on this sence 2008 nothing said that it is less powerfull, it could be 4x Radeon HD 4800 for all we know.

The only company that makes money off of its hardware isn’t even represented there. And how does that graph do anything but reinforce what I said?

which would be who exactly?

If it includes portables, I would guess he’s referring to Apple.

Apple, I guess.

What about the androids!?!?!?!?! they make money from hardware.