Would this be looked down on?

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I always thought it would be fun to have an FPS online game that has a set of basic art assets, but then mix and match the game mechanics and maps to be a sort of “greatest hits” collection of other games.

So let’s say you could have the game mechanics and weapons from Quake 3, but then play on cloned map of Dust from Counter Strike.

Or mix an match from all of the most popular online FPS’s like CS, Q3, TF2, CoD, BF, UT, L4D, Halo, Tribes, and so on.

Do you think that would be looked down on?

Do you think that a game like that could stay within the realm of “fare use”?

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are you implying that you want to snake assets from other games and put them together to make a mash-up game?..

how could that possibly be within any galaxy of “fare use”?

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No, I’m saying that I would like to see a game replicate iconic stages and weapons from classic games and mash them up.

None of the original art or files would be used.

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I guess all games are just copies or building on previous games anyway.

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I think just about every game or movie or even book, is based on the idea of “I want to take the best elements from that and combine it with the best elements from this.” No need to explicitly state that on the product itself though, but I suppose you could.

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If anything, map layouts might get you in hot water.

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I don’t think so. How is that any different from SNK making a Ryu clone?

Also, to be clear: I said I would like to SEE a game like this. I never said I wanted to be the one to make it.

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Do you think that would be looked down on?
It is not looked down if you make your own original artwork and all original coding.

mix an match from all of the most popular online FPS’s like CS, Q3, TF2, CoD, BF, UT,

Will you be funding development of PBR AAA quality models, weapons and props? It costs lots of money for AAA models. Not sure if you want to do that…

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pfftt … quality models… dude… the games hes talking about are seriously old enough, ive made better models…

carentan from cod(2?)… gotta include the little trims of buildings you can magically stand on lol … it actually adds ALOT to that level…

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Yatzee was giving a talk in one his vids where he was saying that 2.5D shooters will be the next big thing in term of indie games

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Nah. You’d be a smash hit.

Now let’s see you do it.

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I would have thought that unless you were using actual textures taken from other games it would be really difficult to replicate the assets closely enough to achieve a copyright violation (unless you were using symbols such as insignias etc. from other games or extremely specific tools like the Portal gun for example (although I’m no sure if that could even be protected)). Whether it would be looked down upon, I guess that implies a value judgement, but if you’re not actually thinking of making it then I guess it’s moot. :0/

Theoretically, if you actual tried to recreate a game exactly, you might not even be able to get close enough to it to cause a violation (without using insignias, character names etc.)

A game that comes to mind is Project Eden (it’s an old game) but it’s like a Judge Dredd game that they just lost the licence to, right down to the Otto Sump food factory and the ABC warrior. If you look at how the textures and assets are re-configured to avoid copyright violation for Project Eden (Eidos) it might give you an idea of just how close you can get even to quite specifically unique I.P.s

Alternately, if you look at the Vietnam FPS cycle you can make a similar kind of assessment.

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Do people really enjoy speaking purely hypothetically with no expectation of reality?

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You couldn’t do this because you couldn’t do it. Get past that hurdle, first, then we can all discuss the legality of the virtually impossible.

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I see the value in discussion and if it’s being discussed it’s implied that someone at least sees the value in discussing it.

If you don’t see any value in it you’re not forced to contribute.

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Thanks for the hot tips on internet discussion etiquette. Having offended the majority of regulars here and had your first ever thread locked by one of the most lenient moderators I’ve ever seen… you should know.

Nice riddle… a discussion must have value if someone sees value in discussing it.

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I’ve been thinking about this myself. What would it be like to take the best maps from the best fps’ and bundle them together. I’m thinking Lockout, Blood Gulch,Last Resort and The Pit(Halo) with Terminal,Highrise,Nuketown and Favela(CoD) with de_dust2 and Facing towers. It would be a bundle of fun if you ask me

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Misterselmo I’m adding you to my ignore list. I thought I should let you know in case you become frustrated because I seem to be ignoring you.

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Hey, cool… now instead of wishing we don’t exist you can make it a reality. Careful you don’t wish everyone away though, then you’ll just be talking to yourself. Assuming, of course, you aren’t already. :wink:

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So, something like Super Maro Bros. Crossover but with FPS games?

Playing something like that would be freakin awesome but for the developer it’d most likely be a legalities nightmare.