To be perfectly honest, the only posts I’m getting tired of are the ones like these - complaining about people on the forums.
Another issue I have with this particular post is that it doesn’t seem to have occurred to you that instead of being “utter morons” the people might just not speak English as their first language; Unity is a world-wide product.
Ah, but that’s just it, a lot of the illiterate posts come from people who are in fact native English speakers, and who have said so themselves.
Maybe english people are in general a bit stupid? Who knows 
Kiddingmode off
Maybe its the language barrer. Maybe those guys or girls we talk about here are really not this clever. So what? They are Unity users. They have the right to ask whatever they want to ask as long as it isnt against the forum rules. And honestly i like those kind of “morons” much more than “pro” militarists. If even i would be for separating the pro militarists so that they are out of the way and stop making trouble to the community. It`s just a handful of oldtime users that cannot deal with a big community anyways.
While at it, i am against bashing in any form. And i count calling other people morons to it too. That this thread stays this long open where the initial post already contains bashing doesn`t really let the mods and admins shine here.
PRO
FREE
Just kidding!
^^ thanks for easing the tension
Pretty much sums it up.
Maybe we should require people watch through a series of basic tutorials and then take a short quiz before they can post in the support forums in order to make sure they’ve learned a basic proficiency?
How do you declare an instance of a new object?
a) var myClass;
b) MyClass myClass = new MyClass();
c) MyClass myClass : MyClass;
How would you connect one class to the instance of another class?
a) public MyClass myClass; - Then drag a GameObject containing a MyClass object onto the myClass slot in the inspector.
b) blah
c) blah
All models must be exported to ___ in order to come into Unity
a) FBX
b) blah
All classes automatically extend from:
a) MonoBehavior
b) Hippocoder
c) whatevs
Static modifier means:
a) poo
You get the idea.
This would weed out people inept at english, it would also force people to achieve a certain level of knowledge before entering.
Either Unity needs to do something like that or they need to stop avdertising 'Make you game in Unity!!!" on every website. Because I agree that it is very important to keep this forum proffesional. The success and reputation of Unity I think rests alot on the professionalism of this forum, and with that the success of everyone who is actually making money with Unity rests ont he success and reputation of this forum.
I am a constant frequenter to many other CG forums, I visit cgtalk.com, zbrushcentral.com and lamrug regularly. All these forums maintain an exceptional level of proffesionalism, and they have done so for years. You get noob users but the many older members often correct their behvaior quickly.
To give some benefit of the doubt here, you could say that since Unity is still so young, it is bound to go through a phase like this before developing a stable mature community.
I’m surprised that no one referenced TRON, you know the blue and red guys. Looking at those pictures, i feel great being a free pro user, but more importantly today i was climbing fucking fine, indeedeedoo.
I left this forum long ago. I rarely come back anymore. I do when I find something to share or am just looking to read what’s up, see if it’s any better.
Last year around this time too many morons showed up starting new topics about unity vs udk and I decided this was no longer the community for me. I still drop by to check on my pals, other members of the community I still respect, but other than that I find this place a waist of time.
Sadly the community was one of the reasons why I enjoyed game deployment in unity. Sharing my discoveries, asking questions about design and coding and getting responses from people who have been there or are looking to solve the same thing and we can work together to get a solution to share with everyone.
The last few times I posted anything like that. I got posts from people begging for my to give away my assets and code. Just greedy little beggars to lazy to learn and just expecting to drag and drop some characters and hit play for the next WoW clone. This place is almost as bad a youtube sometimes. I would post a tutorial and have people begging for my models and code non-stop.
I respect hippocoder, we’ve agreed on things before and he’s helped me more than once but sadly I just don’t come here very often anymore.
Unity could charge for the free version, they could heavily moderate the forums, they could do a number of things. The only real solution I see, is a user starting a new community where a few power-players hold the authority to ban and remove the idiots, and leave the official unity boards to devolve as they are.
If someone created a board where members respected each others and the beggars were not allowed to run free making asses of themselves and ruining good topics. I would gladly participate and share my development with a community once again.
p.s. I’m a pro user and I know plenty of awesome free users. But it only take one bad egg to ruin them all.
Yup it is a bit patronising. In real life I generally will steamroll whoever wastes my time. Maybe not punch in the face, but you get the gist
But patronising? no, I think thats just an accident, I’m not like that. I guess it comes across like that when I’m really just not wanting to waste much time.
I’ll happily support people providing they use what support I’ve given to the full. If they’re acting stupid out of laziness and can do better then I probably dislike them.
hey man, for a lot of us it’s paying the rent. Making games is fun but for a lot of us serious too.
As for free vs pro users, are you forgetting that basic users are also out there? after all the amount isn’t important, but the dedication is. Plus I think free users fall into two camps:
the entitled - this guy thinks he’s entitled to the free version and is doing everyone a favour. I think this person is a complete half wit not worth my time.
the poor man - this guy has no money. I think he’s equal to me, and entitled to just as much - but if I was him I wouldn’t go around shooting my mouth off for more free features, I’d appreciate with respect what I was given.
There’s a difference between using the words moron and stupid in context of a post, and actually calling a person stupid or a moron. You will notice I didn’t in any way imply any names, people, nor intend offense. I merely used those words to describe behaviour.
Seems to me you are once again just blabbing because its fun. It is fun, right?
It’s a sad day when you correctly use words like stupid or moron in a sentence describing behaviour, and you’re moderated down to using words like “sillykins” or “slightly confused”. That would be PC gone insane.
Why don’t I play you at your own game? first you imply the meaning of my words to be offensive, but then you say maybe “english people are in general a bit stupid?”. Then you write that you were kidding.
I could, using your example, just offend everyone on the forum directly to their faces by dissing their nationality and then say “ooh only kidding”. Troll less please.
I just got a simple solution to these problems.
There should be an ‘Advanced Scripting’ subforum where people who have a certain level of proficiency, and are seeking answers to more involved questions could post.
This will keep the serious questions from being flooded out by noob questions.
I’ve been on the other forum, the invite-only Unity forum. Why don’t you just post there if you’re frustrated. Haven’t you guys gotten invites?
Its implicitly done away you have the two forums iphone and android wich non-pros dont post in anyway (for the most part). I guess it would be annoying if you were doing a mac or windows game though.
So, the issue is #1 clearly. Remove him, and the community is as good as ever. Segregating the poor man is a terrible way to go about things. I believe both Free and Pro can be equally dedicated as Hippo said, and they can both benefit from the community. I don’t see why the serious Free users can’t participate with the Pro users.
I totally agree with hippocoder, I remember when I first joined. My posts weren’t illiterate and utterly not understandable. They were n00by, but still asked good questions.
I think the problem is ppl want all the work to be done for them, which is kind of the precident unity sets up (which we all know isnt really true), but it gives new users the false belief that they should be able to just ask and receive without putting effort or thought into what they are doing.
I dont mind helping ppl, but if someone asks how something should be done, they should at least understand some of the basics of what they are doing.
With scripting for example. I like to help ppl with a script thats not working, but im not a fan of just providing outright code. Go. Try. If you fail ask for help, post your codes.
Doesn`t make it much better to call a whole fraction morons and stupid instead a single person. And your assumption is still wrong. There are not ways too much “moron” posts.
Which leads us to “the problem”. There is none at the community end really, no matter how often you repeat it. The problem is at your end, being not flexible enough to do the jump from a small indie community to a big mainstream community. Even after years you are still whining that it`s not longer like in the good ol days. Those days never come back. Accept it.
Its always fun to give the right people the slap they deserve, isnt it? Wasn`t that the initial intention of your post? To do a bit blabbing, plus a little roundhouse kick to blow off a bit steam?
You my friend deserve a big slap 
I, for one, am far too busy actually using Unity to make games to really care about any of this.
You joined 3-4 months ago and not much changed in that short period of time,the forums are actually improving or at least collab section.