Adobe has finally understood about 3D

Flash claiming to be bringing “something big” with 3D.

After 10 years of failure in understanding the web potential about 3D (by making Director and Flash two separate plugins), they finally understood :wink:

Honestly Director was awesome in its time. Very complete software. Using directx, openGL, solid scripting and Flash integration, and pretty good perfs (my first full 3D site was running smoothly 7 years ago).

Now if they merge it with Flash, this should become damn serious.

Unity Ftw, but could this one be a serious concurrent ?

Of course it could be a serious competitor. Flash is still very big, and if they do it right that could get interesting.

Bring it on! We’ll see what happens :slight_smile:

with Adobes pace?

Yeah sure, before this is working we have CCS4+, HTML6 and fullscale WebGL 2 / 3 hardware acceleration, making it look like a kids toy from stone age / 56k days … which it is

Groovy ! :smile:
I’m pretty sure that considering Unity Team’s genius brains, you’ll always be a step further :wink:

I’m serious, you guys amaze me how you can easily handle some big huge new technologies and try to democratize it. For example, I’m not sure that Adobe would be able to make matrix operations, rendering pipelines or shader optimization as technically appealing as UT.

That’s your strength I guess, you manage to attract both beginners and highly technical people :wink:

LOL
Nice shot

uhm… cs5 is already out…

Did the actual article mention merging flash and director?

Yeah and CS5 is at the point where it should have been 2006, perhaps 2007 to be considered up to the state of art.

If we consider that already trivial 2d (without hardware acceleration at all) took them till 2010 when scaleform did it years ago, I don’t want to see how many years the rest takes them, especially considering the state of shockwave and director.

it would have been an interesting technology but they just took too long. There is now WebGL to finally bring HW accelerated 3D to browser, nobody needs director for lightweight 3d any longer by the time they finally get somewhere with it.

they should focus on getting their toolsuite up and all fine with these new techs that will come and that will get rid of their slow, buggy, security threatening plugins in wide cases of usage more the sooner than the later

No, not at all, that’s just my interpretation as I can’t see another way to make “something big” (no pun intended) in no time.

Does Director count as “something big” these days? ducks

yeah but big more in the meaning of big pile of poo or big pile of bugs or big pile of “hate and die adobe” if we go by the opinions among users who wasted cash on Director 11

You’re right when extrapolating Adobe’s history. But still, compared to Flash, Unity has a close to zero plugin penetration. For many developers/companies this counts as a major drawback. Flash shows it’s not all about having the best tech, it’s about acceptance. If Adobe has learned from its mistakes and executes within a reasonable timeframe, it could turnout being a major competitor for Unity.

No other portal besides shockwave accepts unity games so its not exactly like we can go anywhere but up.

Any company which finally realises that serious and stable 3D has to go hand in hand with text and so customiseable text fields and areas has been blessed by one ray of light.

Strangly enough it’s more likely you, also after many years, get some humpy bumpy features instead of some significant bread and butter functionality.

im a flash developer by day i love/loved flash and this is great news for the platform, but its pretty late to market. This is stuff they should have done awhile back, when 3D flash was hot.

Even the webgl spec is maturing and most major browsers have implementations in nightlies- which will give ‘html5’ more power, the sheeple(and porn industry) have spoken, i used to be in denial but it really seems flash is on the way out.

Alot of flash devs are becoming inactive, even Flash Brighton will be going a name change.

Imho is kind of annoying being a flash dev and having so much uncertainty about the future of flash. Adobe has done very little to keep the faith alive…

Well Unity has many millions of plugins installed so that’s not exactly no uptake. Gotta start somewhere. And I agree Unity is more appealing a technology/system than Flash. I think flash might be threatened more by HTML5 stuff and the potential to lose traction with video etc.

Calling it something big is also just marketing hype, that could mean anything, it could mean throwing a few slow textured polygons around.

Hear this idea out – it could potentially make Unity insanely viable in the online world.

Everyone knows Flash is installed on a ton of computers. Hate it or love it, we all use it. If you don’t – you must see a ton of broken-link images throughout the web.

I don’t know about other developers, but if Flash 3D came out and was actually good, then I would certainly pay a large sump of money if someone created a Unity to Flash 3D converter.

Imagine creating your game in Unity, and then putting it in the web without hassle. No annoying plug-ins or anything. Miniclip.com anyone?

Of course, there will undoubtedly be a ton of issues on things not being imported and what not, but nevertheless, this would be awesome if we were able to get some basics working out of the box, ya know? Possibly an entirely different license – Unity Web?

Just a thought! I personally think it would be great, but I know some people are bound to hate the idea.

Erm I think you forget something: every flash version has a new installer too, like Unity and the install base of more current flash versions has definitely suffered (flash 7 >> flash 8 >> flash 9 >>>>> flash 10 >>>>>>>>>> flash 3d)

Argh, you’re right :?

Revoke my last post :smile:

Also in many corporate workstation environments Flash versions are lagging behind because there are very few acute reasons, except for entertainment of the employees, to update the standards. From their point of view, people are spending enough time playing games as it is.

Haha that is so my case xD
(dayjob flash dev here)