I’ll admit, I’ve been doing a lot of google searches lately about how much new indie game devs make, or the average, but for a different reason. I’m not trying to make thousands of dollars, although it’d be nice it’s not what I’m expecting. I’m not asking for numbers, as of right now I work at UPS, 3 days a week 5 hours a day. I’m not making very much money, I want to go to college to get a degree in Computer Science which UPS will pay for so I don’t have to worry about that, but I still have a lot of other things I have to pay for, and getting a second job as well as going to college would make things really difficult for starting my career as an indie game dev. I see a lot of people asking this question but for all the wrong reasons, I have a few questions to ask and I’ll list them below. I want to note, I know these questions can be difficult to answer as there isn’t a direct yes or no, depending on different things to take in to account it can be different for everyone, so statistically speaking:
Could I make a living off being a new Indie game dev? (I ask because if I can make a living, I could power through this tough time barely making enough and develop a game and not worry about having to get a second job, giving me more time to continuously work on this)
If I can make a living, even if it’s very small, where would I start? (I mean like, would the best place to start be steam greenlight? Or what sources are out there to put a game out)
What would be the best way to go about making this a thing til the point I can make it a full time thing? (Being able to quit my job at UPS and work on games full time, maybe this is pushing it, idk. That’s why I’m here asking)
and lastly, how long does it typically take an Indie Game Dev to start growing? (I know this isn’t really apparent to my question “Can I make a living off being a new indie game dev” but it would help give an idea on how long I should expect so I can take necessary actions meanwhile to maintain financial stability)
Do not bank on being a successful indie. The dropout rate among game devs in general, let alone indie devs is really high. Keep working, go to school, work in dev time when you can but don’t overexert yourself. Maybe take part in game jams when possible. Realistically, you’re going to be looking at it being some time before you can use indie as a sustainable income source.
Being an indie game developer is a bit like having an indie music band. Most of those bands never get anywhere and almost nobody knows about their work. Of course, you will have a chance to make it big time, but it will require a lot of sacrifices. For ex. if you decide to have a wife and children before 30 then you practically can’t do it, because you will need a reliable job and a steady, low-risk income.
When I go hunting, I take food with me. That way, if I fail the hunt, I can still eat. Hunting is enjoyable and satisfying, which is why I do it, but if I had to get all my food from hunting, you could probably point out all of my ribs easily. Actually, let’s be real, I’d just be dead.
Get it?
(hint : get a real job so you can develop games properly. Best bet, a job in the games industry!)
Short answer is “yes”, because plenty of people do and therefore it’s clearly possible. However, there are many, many more who don’t, so it’s also clearly unlikely.
First of all, I’d say don’t do game dev for the money. I don’t say this for artsy reasons, I say it for the sheer practicality of the matter. There are other areas where you could invest your time and energy where you’re likely to earn more money, even if you’re applying the same or similar skills! So, while making money is good, and for large projects and teams it’s even necessary, I wouldn’t recommend getting into game dev unless there’s something else you’re getting out of doing so.
Secondly, on the note of skill, you’re going to be competing with people who’ve already been doing this for years and who have more time and other resources that you do. It’s not fair, but it’s life. You’re going to have to put a lot of effort into learning the craft before your games are likely to have commercial value (there are exceptions to this, but they’re just that - exceptions!), and you need to be cool with not making money from them until then, and be able to sustain yourself until then.
Third… if you’re talking about making money then you’re talking about business. So, if you want to make games for money then treat it like you would any other business!
This isn’t to dissuade people from having a crack at starting a studio. It’s great and it’s rewarding and I freakin’ love it. Just make sure that you’re making informed decisions and, at least where money is involved, have considered alternatives.
I like Bordeaux and tasting menus, so I have a dayjob My pro tip, get a day job, work on the game on the side until things get a move on. You dont want to live like a hobo
In business perspective, everything might success once you see the demand, plus a little bit of luck.
Time is 2nd, the key is how you sell it. Learn marketing and business skills could bring you great helps.
I suggest you to keep working on paid job meanwhile slowly build your games in free time.
Start from small uniqueness games first by knowing your abilities. I suggest not to follow trends but make yours.
Once you realized one of your games accidentally being a hit, then you can fully focus on it. Keep it up.
It doesn’t mean that you must stop making games on your own spare time though; maybe something could get out of them, even money that could buy you a new car?
Money can be made as an indie dev. However, the money tends to flow towards a small group of very popular games instead of getting evenly dispersed. For every indie dev that makes it big, there are thousands of indie devs that make nearly nothing. So statistically speaking, you are very likely to make nearly nothing as an indie dev.
Additionally, nobody makes a hit indie game overnight on their first try. Everybody that has made a hit game also made a bunch of games as practice prior to their success. When you read about an overnight success story, remember the real story usually involves a bunch of work over years of time. People often talk about the one hit game somebody made, but they usually forget to talk about the 50 market failures that same person made prior. Success requires a lot of tenacity.
The tools are fantastic and there are solid platforms for distributing games. If you love making games, then now is a perfect time to make games. But if money is your main reason to make games, then you will likely be very disappointed.
As for Steam, it is a great market for indies to release games. Steam Greenlight is gone. What you would use now is called Steam Direct. Steam is my favorite platform both as a gamer and as a game developer. Steam is somewhat crowded, so most new games won’t find any market, but there are millions of potential customers actively using Steam.
I am given to understand that it can be, and usually is, extremely stressful.
In all seriousness, the first thing you learn when you wade into a major game project is how much time and effort it takes to make even a simple game. And the answer is always A LOT. It is also always WAY MORE THAN YOU EXPECTED. The first major problem that most new indie developers run into is that they suddenly find that they have no free time anymore, and are forced to spend all day, every day working on their project. After 12 months or more of working like this, most people get ground down quite a bit.
And then of course, there’s the actual return, and the various factors that this entails. You aren’t guaranteed any actual profit, and there are plenty of new indie developers who sweat over their freshman effort, and then make no money. Quite a few in fact. I’d say the majority of indie game developers make no or very little money from their first title. Normally you need to get two or three titles under your belt before you have the experience to start making something cleaner and more marketable. Which brings us to the next major point. Passion projects tend to be less marketable. And when your livelihood/income is tied to your project, it doesn’t take long for you to start compromising your vision in pursuit of profit. You will start to alter your game to make it easier to sell and generate revenue. And at that point, you’ve thrown away most of the advantages that come with making a game independently.
Stick to hobby development until you have more experience. Then perhaps re-assess the possibility of making a vocation out of it.
I think a lot of people want to be “indie’s” because – well, there is what they say and what is probably the real reason. What they say is, " I want to be my own boss, not a 9-5 slave." Alright, fair enough. Who doesn’t want that? But I think the reality is most people want to be indie because they really want to make games but they don’t want to face the competition of getting into the AAA industry.
Now, this is pure speculation, but I’d wager if you work hard and stay honest with yourself, the chances of getting a good AAA game industry job is probably much better than making a living as an indie developer. And I’d further wager that the chances of being a successful indie developer is probably exponentially higher if you have AAA production experience. I mean, even if you hate AAA games and you hate working on big teams, don’t you think it would make more sense to work in a good paying job at the cutting edge of the field for a few years, learn the ropes, and then go into indie development with proven methods for production?
I could get a job in the AAA industry right now if I wanted to. It’s not that hard. However, I’ve also heard all of the horror stories about getting burnt out working for the AAA game industry. And I’ve worked a previous job where I had to do far more overtime than I would have preferred. I’m not going back to that, not even to work in games. And of course, there are no AAA studios in the area I live in, and I would have to move in order to get a AAA game job. I’m at a point in my life where I don’t want to move away from my family, so that’s not happening either. And if I didn’t want to move too far, I would basically have to move to California, and that’s not happening. (far too expensive to live, and entry-level gaming gigs don’t pay enough)
I’ve accrued enough applicable technical experience in other industries that getting work in the game industry would be a walk in the park. I just don’t want one in the current development industry. I can get more done as a hobbyist with a higher quality of living and far more free time. Getting a AAA gig in this environment would be self-destructive.
So that “I think a lot of people” part means, 1. I am just speculating, and 2. if it doesn’t apply to you, it doesn’t apply to you. You don’t have to convince me of anything.
The intent is not to say, “indie devs are just hacks who couldn’t make it in the real world!” The intent is to say, “indie game dev is extremely insecure and the safest bet to give yourself the best shot at making it as an indie dev is to probably start by working in the AAA industry.”
Furthermore, a person must be honest with themselves if they want to be successful at any great endeavor. So the question “do i want to be an indie developer because that’s the best option for me, or do i view it as an easy road to avoid doing things I don’t want to do?” Because if you don’t ask yourself that question and the latter is true, you are just going to fail.
My pro tip, get a day job, work on the game on the side until things get a move on. You dont want to live like a hobo
