[RELEASED] Horse Animset Pro 3

[BillO]

Using ootii Motion Controller and Synty Studios Western Pack with HAP integration. Cannot seem to get the camera to follow the character after mounting the horse. Also, the feet don’t fit inside the stirrups. Besides those issues, the HAP system is amazing. I’m hoping to integrate the ootii Shooter Pack as well. I don’t think the OotiiHAPLink.cs script includes the required code to handle Shooter Pack yet. However, it would be a perfect addition for the Synty Studios Western Pack.

[Malbers]

Some new Optimization for the Animal Script (Which means all the animals /creatures)

- YouTube

[Malbers]

@BillO

Also, the feet don’t fit inside the stirrups.

You can Fix the Feet IK Position while playing
Check this tuto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cc5fonmgmI

@BillO

Cannot seem to get the camera to follow the character after mounting the horse.

Check on the Link Script that you have set the reference for the Camera Controller from ootii

EDIT: My BAD since I was using the hole ootii set I had the line of code on the camera on the wrong side

I have updated the integration again

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19HjQhkumrLFIwWRYpSzvS4kupNCoy_xt

[MostHated]

I have not checked recently, do all animals come with a HAP ridable version? I recently got most of them.

[Malbers]

@MostHated

I have not checked recently, do all animals come with a HAP ridable version? I recently got most of them.

yes! all of them has a ready to mount prefab

[MostHated]

Perfect. : D

[Necka]

@Malbers

Some new Optimization for the Animal Script (Which means all the animals /creatures)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCm9tDAqwLY

Hi Malbers,

that look amazing and I was going to write you about an issue which isn’t even close to 100 wolves.

In my current scene (I’m just prototyping) I got 1 horse and 2 wolves (the wolves aren’t doing anything and the horse just has the player as a target in the AI, but the performances cost is not important)

Adding the horse to the scene cost 30 to 40fps. That’s quite huge. Same for wolves (but less impact)

Should I wait for your performance update to do more tests or is there any way to troubleshoot this (I’m not used to troubleshooting performances yet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYW1hr7GHmQ

[Malbers]

@Necka

Hi Malbers,

that look amazing and I was going to write you about an issue which isn’t even close to 100 wolves.

In my current scene (I’m just prototyping) I got 1 horse and 2 wolves (the wolves aren’t doing anything and the horse just has the player as a target in the AI, but the performances cost is not important)

Adding the horse to the scene cost 30 to 40fps. That’s quite huge. Same for wolves (but less impact)

Should I wait for your performance update to do more tests or is there any way to troubleshoot this (I’m not used to troubleshooting performances yet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYW1hr7GHmQ

I found that Sounds tracks and Particles for the FootSteps make a bit of a performance problem… and for the horse the cloth simulation for the reins and the Mane… those are frame killers…

Now, other problems I found was the Raycasting.
I was making 3 raycasts on FixedUpdate…(which it can be a bit heavy)
on the next update that is changed to update and you can adjust the Raycast to every N frames

I was keep making changes and searching every code to squeeze a bit of performance but I’m stopping for now… so I can release this update this week

[Necka]

@Malbers

I found that Sounds tracks and Particles for the FootSteps make a bit of a performance problem… and for the horse the cloth simulation for the reins and the Mane… those are frame killers…

Now, other problems I found was the Raycasting.
I was making 3 raycasts on FixedUpdate…(which it can be a bit heavy)
on the next update that is changed to update and you can adjust the Raycast to every N frames

I was keep making changes and searching every code to squeeze a bit of performance but I’m stopping for now… so I can release this update this week

That’s great, I’ll wait for the update and then do some more testing

[DenisFernandes]

Hi @Malbers , i’m having a problem with the UFPS integration. Using the prefabs out of the box from the example scene, the horse is not falling as it should, here’s a video:

2018 04 04 17 49 48

Do you know what possible is causing that?
Thanks in advance, cheers

[ACharrier]

@wigglypuffs_1

This Akeytsu program is worth every penny. I’ve spent some more time learning it and it’s really easy to bone, skin and retarget rigs with it.

I’ve made a huge leap in progress:
https://i.gyazo.com/35cc87e3b46888d90855938bd3c3bdce.mp4

I need to smooth out a few spots here or there but I’ve nailed it.

The workflow with Akeytsu is this (figured it out through trial and error and watching videos, they don’t have a tutorial on how to do what we want to do e.g. retarget a mesh, but the tool is capable of it if you jump through some hoops):

1. Click New Scene, and in the lower left icon click Display Joints to see bones.
2. Import Horse Animset Pro’s Horse or Lion FBX depending on what you’re making
3. Import your own animal FBX.
4. Click New Character and give it a name
5. Drag and drop the Horsi_CG bones from the Horse into your new character
6. You can now delete the Horse from the scene
7. Drag and drop the mesh from your animal into the new character next to the Horsi_CG.
8. You can now delete the animal from the scene
9. Import the Horse again, we’ll need it for lining up the mesh and transferring the skin over
10. Position or scale your animal mesh as desired. And, move the ear bones to the base of the ears. The jaw bone to the jaw line. Line the knees, elbows, and feet bones up to their respective locations on your new animal. And, set up the tail correctly. Make sure the mount and reign hold positions are slightly above the back.
11. Click “Reset and freeze” to bake the transforms
12. Right click on your animal’s Horsi_CG and click Expand Hierarchy.
13. Hold shift and select the entire Horsi_CG hierarchy and also include your mesh in the selection.
14. Click Skin & Check under your animal in the character bank.
15. Click Bind Start Skin in the Skin Atelier.
16. Select just your animal’s Horsi_CG.
17. Turn off the wavy lines icon for Horsi_CG in the Picker to disable smoothing on the root bone. You would do this for eye joints, etc. but the horse doesn’t have any.
18. Click Process End Skin in the Skin Atelier. Your animal will now have a Bind Pose in the character bank. And, your mesh icons should now be yellow.
19. Now if you click on the body parts you’ll notice the skin weights are a bit naive, e.g. mostly yellow which indicates 100% weight. We’ll copy over the weights from the horse though we will need to clean it up a bit even after that.
20. Hold shift and select everything under the Horse, then hold Ctrl and click to unselect Horse1 and Horsi_CG, then right click and click Hide Hierarchy. This hides armor, reins, etc. except the main body and bones.
21. Now with Horse selected, hold the Shift click and drag a rectangle selection around the entire horse. This selects all the mesh vertices for the skinned mesh in the Horse.
22. Click the Copy Weights button. The dots will turn blue indicating they’re in the clipboard.
23. Now click your animal in the tree and hold shift and draw a selection rectangle around it.
24. Click the Paste Weights button. Then hold shift and left click in an empty space to deselect vertices.
25. Delete the horse.
26. Click on various joints and rotate them to see if the flesh has issues.
27. Click Skin Painter button in the Skin Atelier and right click anywhere with whatever strength and size brush setting you want to reduce or eliminate weight in that area. Rotate the joint again and see if that corrected it. If you need more weight, use left click with the skin painter. Also, click Full Paint Mode button if you want to draw weights through the object like an xray machine affecting weights on the other side of the mesh.
28. Once you have the skin more or less how you like it use Export FBX from the main menu logo icon in the upper left for and choose Selection only.
29. Drag/drop the FBX you created into Unity.
30. Under the rig options for the model, select the root bone as Horsi_CG. Hit Apply.
31. Duplicate a rideable Horse prefab in the scene.
32. Copy all the components from the prefab to your animal.
33. Copy all the mount triggers, pivot points, etc. into your animal.
34. Copy the tracks in each of the feet and hands to your animal’s hierachy.
35. Copy all of the colliders from the hierarchy to your animal’s.
36. Make sure your transform line up and that the mount points and water line etc are in the correct positions.
37. Put the entire animal on the Animal layer.
38. Put mount triggers and horse tracks on ignore raycast layer.
39. Move the MountPoint to the horsi_spine1 → riderparent → riderlink
40. Move the left foot, knee, right foot, knee ik to horsi_spine1
41. Hit play, walk up to and mount your animal. It should now be rideable.

Note: All of the names of the buttons I mentioned above can be found when you hover over them to see the tool tip names.

Those steps may look hard but compared to the traditional way of skinning and rigging this is actually really easy. It was a pain figuring all of that out. But, hopefully it helps anyone who finds this.

All of their video tutorials can be found here:
https://www.nukeygara.com/learn-akeytsu

The videos Skeletons and Pivots, Duo Skin, and Copy Paste Skin helped me the most. Halfway through the duo skin video I stopped watching because I had my answers, the duo skin is some extra feature I don’t know much about. The first half of that video is purely about normal skinning. It is when they teach you to create your bind pose from a fresh character that you boned in Skeletons and Pivots. And, the copy paste skin video teaches you how to transfer weights between two models.

Hi guys,
Just few words to tell you that our team (Nukeygara ;)) made a video tutorial concerning the nice post of Wigglypuffs above. So this tutorial quickly shows how to use Akeytsu to add a new quadruped in Horse Animset Pro. We hope it will help.

Enjoy
Aurelien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PB7Msik314

[Malbers]

@DenisFernandes

Hi @Malbers , i’m having a problem with the UFPS integration. Using the prefabs out of the box from the example scene, the horse is not falling as it should, here’s a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjnrVQIq0c0

Do you know what possible is causing that?
Thanks in advance, cheers

Yes! I have already fix that wait for the next update soon

[Malbers]

@ACharrier

Hi guys,
Just few words to tell you that our team (Nukeygara ;)) made a video tutorial concerning the nice post of Wigglypuffs above. So this tutorial quickly shows how to use Akeytsu to add a new quadruped in Horse Animset Pro. We hope it will help.

Enjoy
Aurelien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PB7Msik314

AMAZING WORK!!!

[mattallen54]

This error is giving me problems;

Assets/Malbers Animations/Horse AnimSet Pro/Integration/Invector/Melee/InvectorHAPLinkMelee.cs(190,23): error CS1061: Type MalbersAnimations.HAP.Rider3rdPerson' does not contain a definition for IsRiding’ and no extension method IsRiding' of type MalbersAnimations.HAP.Rider3rdPerson’ could be found. Are you missing an assembly reference?

I’m using Invector_Shooter 1.2.0 and I’ve imported in the integration files… not sure if maybe you have a fix for this already?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Keep up all the good work!

[pegassy]

I am working on a 2.5D side scrolling game. I like it that the character can mount from the back, since I can have the mount stay parallel to the horizontal axis and on the same vertical plane with the player. However, the character dismounts to the left side all the time, taking the player to a different axis out of the 2D playing plane. Is there a way to have the character always dismount to the same vertical plane as the mount? For example, always dismount with the same jumping from back animation? What controls the dismount location? Thank you for the awesome asset.

[Malbers]

@mattallen54

I’m using Invector_Shooter 1.2.0 and I’ve imported in the integration files… not sure if maybe you have a fix for this already?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Keep up all the good work!

Try Changing IsRiding for isRiding…

[Malbers]

@pegassy

I am working on a 2.5D side scrolling game. I like it that the character can mount from the back, since I can have the mount stay parallel to the horizontal axis and on the same vertical plane with the player. However, the character dismounts to the left side all the time, taking the player to a different axis out of the 2D playing plane. Is there a way to have the character always dismount to the same vertical plane as the mount? For example, always dismount with the same jumping from back animation? What controls the dismount location? Thank you for the awesome asset.

The dismount animations is set by the last Mount trigger used by the rider
the Dismount ID is the Transition values to the Dismount animation… so changing that value on the Mount Trigger will change how the rider will dismount

[Quaaaid]

(Fixed the problem I posted before, editing now as i have a new problem :P)

Hey guys, what is the best way to significantly lower the turn speed when at a gallop?
I tried to edit the two values on Animal → Ground → Run Speed, but there are problems setting a negative “additional Run Turn Speed” and tweaking the “L” value isn’t what I want at the moment. I cant find another way to make it so tapping left or right only moves the horse a fraction when your at top speed, whilst holding it wont swing it about at unrealistic speeds whilst at full gallop (im implementing jousting so i need to make fine adjustments at speed to line up with the target)

Thanks

[pegassy]

@Malbers

The dismount animations is set by the last Mount trigger used by the rider
the Dismount ID is the Transition values to the Dismount animation… so changing that value on the Mount Trigger will change how the rider will dismount

Thank you for the help. I was able to solve the issue by deleting all the triggers except the back trigger. Then I changed the dismount animation to a -1 speed of the back mount. It is looking a little weird since the player tries to jump back from the horse, but kinda goes through the back of the horse (ouch). I am looking for a way to make it the exact opposite of the regular mount animation.

[pegassy]

I was able to turn Opsive TPC’s Blink (the horse) to work in a 2.5D style control, but I am having a hard time turning the HAP horse controller to do the same. Basically, I would like to have a system where when I press the left arrow it will turn left and then continue moving left, and the same for right. Currently it only moves forward with the up key. Since TPC’s animation system is code based, I could not transfer what I did with Blitz to “Horse for Opsive”'s “Horse Animset Pro 3.0” animator controller. Do you have any integration files that I could use to make it work with the pseudo-3D mode of TPC more quickly? Thank you.